chaos zakum - questions

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thread starter ChiefMonkie Sep 27 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what should a DrK's damage(damage not level) look like before he should try getting into a chaos zak run? I am waiting to potential my helmet untill I get a 3 line czak helm and would also like the experience of going on a zak run(last time I did a zak run was over 3 years ago). Also, any links to more information about czak would be nice. Like what are the pre-req. quests, how much hp should I have to properly zerk there etc etc.

My Characters: DAKGU - 124 Khaini Dark Knight

bLY27 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

with crit i can do 199k if not around 130k times 3 mobbing 3 arms which usually takes around 1-2 mins to kill 2-3 arms at zak. which os why i dont think drks are just hb mules

My Characters: Eivyn - 165 Scania Dark Knight

ChiefMonkie 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

my range is currently 3500~96xx at 124 unbuffed, do you think I will make it into the category of attacker, or do I still need some upgrades to be considered anything more than an HB mule? Also, is your 130k per crusher total, or per hit(130k*3 = 390k * (1 to 3 mobs) = insane damage?) if it is per hit, wouldn't you need a top end of roughly 38k clean to hit that? 38k*1.7 = 64.6k*2 because of berserk = 129.2k

My Characters: DAKGU - 124 Khaini Dark Knight

bLY27 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

keep in mind that i only boss, my spear is 30% bossing so it adds more. and also your range is pretty good for your level so dont worry about it.

My Characters: Eivyn - 165 Scania Dark Knight

iNubbed 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Leveling more and maxing your dmg increasing skills such as zerk will help you the most. At your lvl, your zerk isn't very effective and you'll face a 16% dmg reduction at zak.

My Characters: CrashnSpear - 130 Broa Dark Knight

evilkaz 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Knowing the majority of the boss runners in Khaini, its all about levels and the people you know than anything else if you wanted to get on a run.

My Characters: Kasair - 111 Khaini Outlaw

ChiefMonkie 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iNubbed : Leveling more and maxing your dmg increasing skills such as zerk will help you the most. At your lvl, your zerk isn't very effective and you'll face a 16% dmg reduction at zak. [/quote] I didnt mean I wanted to zak right this second, Like I said I was wondering when I should realisticly be able to get into a run given my damage range. I also stated in a post somewhere else in this thread that I will be bossing hardcore at about 140 when I have stance/zerk all maxed out.

My Characters: DAKGU - 124 Khaini Dark Knight

deathleaper 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ChiefMonkie : I didnt mean I wanted to zak right this second, Like I said I was wondering when I should realisticly be able to get into a run given my damage range. I also stated in a post somewhere else in this thread that I will be bossing hardcore at about 140 when I have stance/zerk all maxed out. [/quote] How, at 140, can you have stance and zerk maxed out if you also should have beholder. =3

My Characters: Aescherit - 145 Broa Aran in Hope

Dragontearz 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Good luck zerking at chaos zak.

My Characters: BanditVince - 151 Mardia Shadower

bello99 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ChiefMonkie : may I ask what your range is when attacking bLY? I'm putting a lot of time and effort into my gear to break the norm of "HB mule" and be an attacker. It is hard to get bench-mark comparisons though becasue most super high level people have not changed gear since pots/enhance came out, they just sat comfortably with their current gear and the damage comparison thread is essentially dead with all ranges looking pre-POT era. [/quote] So let me get this right you want to not be a support class anymore and be a full on attacking melee class then sorry to say this but you picked the wrong class. As for czak on the arms you will be an hb mule simply becasue he disells every few seconds(think of it like the curse arm on normal zak instead of sealing you or putting you into darkness it dose nothing but dispel) On the bodies you are to be attacking and hb when he dose dispel. Think of it this way without you acting as an hb for about 5 mins the run could not be done at all so as i tell my runners do the job your class was meant to do if you want a differnt role make another class.

My Characters: corner99 - 160 Khaini Hero

leannesama 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bLY27 : i guess you havent seen a funded drk in action at bosses. i believe they will bring another drk in the party if the drk can outdpm their whole pt [/quote] I have a bunch of drk friends able to do max dmg easily. They don't bother getting a hb mule, they rather want more splits than another guy taking more mesos.

My Characters: missrailgun - 200 Scania Marksman

chickenpoodl 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i love how once potential system set in, everyone jsut talks about dmg and funding nowadays. and ppl wonder why the game is losing its appeal with every passing day lol

My Characters: chickenpoodl - 200 Bera Dark Knight

hongyu1230 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bLY27 : i guess you havent seen a funded drk in action at bosses. i believe they will bring another drk in the party if the drk can outdpm their whole pt [/quote] you going with weak parties then, they don't want extra hb mules, they want to get a successful run with the most mesos that they can get out of it, getting more hb mules = less splits. Joke lol, there are ppl doing 1 party czak runs even these days because seduce arm dies fast with a highly funded party and a good bishop healing them, why you think they don't just get 2-3 parties making it faster lol.

My Characters: chromesan1 - 154 Scania Bishop

xxxpipxxx 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The reason that its a level difference normally rather than damage is that more of the "proer" guilds czak and they take their own members which are normally 150+ or some sort of level range close to that. My level 157 bishop is actually a lower leveled in my guild that czaks, we just take guildies + necessities (missing attackers/ bishop) on the run.

My Characters: dk16 - 141 Scania Night Lord

sora77950 09/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bLY27 : keep in mind that i only boss, my spear is 30% bossing so it adds more. and also your range is pretty good for your level so dont worry about it. [/quote] You must be going with a really weak party if you're out dmging your whole party...

My Characters: HeroicalIy - 155 Mardia Bow Master

chickenpoodl + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

we have NL's in bera with 20k or near 20k clean.. excluding those with liek 400atk claws of course. hahah

My Characters: chickenpoodl - 200 Bera Dark Knight