Bowmaster and Marksmen after the Big Bang

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thread starter Lugiaman64 Aug 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Everyone knows bowmaster for their speed and marksmen for their power. I heard after the big bang the marksmen's new ultimate strafe fires more arrows per minute than hurricane. If this is true then bowmaster suddenly look alot less appealing. I think its kinda unfair how marksmen are now faster and stronger I know the new FA works with hurricane but marksmen have snipe and pierce. Looking at this marksmen look better at bossing and training than bowmaster. I am still gonna keep playing my bowmaster cause I love them but I wanna hear what basil thinks about this.

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HammerTirne 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Even with ultimate strafe bowmasters will still shoot arrows faster than marksmen.

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orangeking11 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I haven't checked lately, but I really doubt US beats Hurricane post-BB in Arrows/min. xD

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marsheh 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hurricane > US in speed.

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spiritrival + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hurricane and Ultimate Strafe fire the same number of arrows unless the Marksman has Speed Infusion. So without it, Hurricane will be better with Final Attack. With Speed Infusion...there's probably math involved :P

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iSmashBugs 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

wrong. they fire the same amount of arrows per second. but, US is 1.25 skill usages per second, and hurricane is 8.333 skill usages per second. Final attack works with each skill usage, so it will have a chance to activate with every arrow of FA. also, Marksmenship will activate with every arrow of FA, but only once per skill usage with US. and dont give me this "oh but snipe is awesome" Bull. its not. its only 10m damage a minute, and if you take a 170 BM and a 170 MM... the BM will be doing over 80k per arrow... at 640k damage a second, NOT counting in FA, Crits, and Marksmenship.

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bored321 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wait wuh? I thought Hurricane's arrow per second became 12 after Big Bang.

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tgamej 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This is comparing to hurricane vs triple throw in current situation.

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hyperbolicj 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm here to put things to rest: Ultimate strafe and Hurricane after BB will fire the SAME amount of arrows per minute. The difference is that with hurricane FA will be able to activate with each arrow fired while ultimate strafe will activate FA with one US rather then each arrow. So BMs still will do more damage the MMs with just Ultimate strafe. The difference will then be made up with by using snipe for MMs so the two classes are so evened out that their DPM is withing 100k of one another.

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XaviAce + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] iSmashBugs : wrong. they fire the same amount of arrows per second. but, US is 1.25 skill usages per second, and hurricane is 8.333 skill usages per second. Final attack works with each skill usage, so it will have a chance to activate with every arrow of FA. also, Marksmenship will activate with every arrow of FA, but only once per skill usage with US. and dont give me this "oh but snipe is awesome" Bull. its not. its only 10m damage a minute, and if you take a 170 BM and a 170 MM... the BM will be doing over 80k per arrow... at 640k damage a second, NOT counting in FA, Crits, and Marksmenship. [/quote] Where exactly did you get these calculations? Because I find this to be complete bull, not to mention the bias towards bowmasters I'm seeing. Have you even taken into account that snipe plays a big part in a Marksman's DPM? So by these bs calculations you've put up, 80k per arrow, 1 UStrafe equals 480k damage per 1.25 seconds. Now multiply that by 4 and you have 1.92m damage per 5 seconds. Now add onto that snipe, and you have about 2.42m damage per 5 seconds. Now if hurricane hit 640k per second, multiply that by 5 and you have 3.2m damage per 5 seconds. Also, please explain to me how you only got 10m damage per minute for marksman please. Have you also taken into account that if a Bowmaster and Marksman had the same stat equips, and the same attack bow and cross, that a Marksman would still be doing more damage per arrow? These are all things to take into account when trying to calculate DPMs. Don't make it seem like a Marksman's DPM is crap without doing the proper math.

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