Summons being reversed: Give me back my Elquines!

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thread starter AsaLostar Jul 19 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Apparently Maple's Big Bang patch changed up the mage storyline and made it so that ice mages get Elquines and Fire mages get Ifrit. Even though it makes more sense as the proper elemental affinity, I'm upset because Ifrit's a giant dork who aggros monsters without freezing them. Up until now, I believed that I was in agreeance to all of the Big Bang changes, but I guess even I am slightly vexed now. Cooldown times? I could care less about that. Since monsters are being buffed, I can mist maps just like before. There are some days where I'm sick of using my meteor all day, so I tend to unwind in the Oblivion sector of Time Temple with my buddy Elquines and pick out the Oblivion Guardians with mixed moves. This is making fire/ice demon more of a dependant move, and I can barely think of situations where f/ps and i/ls will willingly train side-by-side one another... *sigh* Why do ice/lightnings need yet another freezing skill anyways? What do you guys think?

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Annastasia 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AsaLostar : I guess someone said earlier that Fire/Ice Demon does not change elemental attributes anymore, and the Damage-Over-Time system has changed based on your power. In addition, you can now use the effect of these skills AND poison on bosses.. [/quote] I also heard that blizzard freezes bosses and also does DoT o.o so you can freeze them every 30 seconds I guess I doubt it works with any other skills though And I noticed that thunder spear is 140% 5 times which is 700% and cl is like 740% which isn't too different (but it mobs) so would getting ice demon first be more helpful in bossing and training since it hits 6 monsters and does DoT? :/ there are no AMs in the kms videos that have used ice demon or fire demon once, so it's hard to tell

nbs923 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For those who say F/Ps can still level fast through poison training, both Poison Brace and Poison Mist's DoT is a % of power rather than a % of the monster's HP. And does anyone have a video of DoTs affecting bosses?

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HateSpirit 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's fair how it is now and how it'll be later, to me. The freezing is nice for F/Ps currently, but if they had it after the big bang, that would be sort of too much. As of what we know right now, they're in around the top three in DPS for bossing, and they still have great mobbing capabilities. I've heard that frostbite (ice demon, blizzard) doesn't stack with poison/burn, either. That means that you can't have both at the same boss area (meaning bosses like scarlion, CWKPQ [unless at different ones like I/Ls attacking red nirg, F/Ps attacking Margana] targa, etc. can't have both using DoT. Poison is stronger anyways too, as it even has more skills (brace, mist, paralyze, composition). Also, I/Ls still aren't "amazing" at bossing, especially compared to F/Ps. Not to mention the fact that chain lightning only mobs three, and still has damage reduction. Elquines can help with freezing when using chain lightning for training, but I've yet to figure out how ice demon works (never used). If bosses freeze from ice-based moves too, then that would be pretty nice (not just blizzard). Don't forget, teleport mastery is very helpful for poison training, since it stuns at like a 50% rate?

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FightinDuck 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I still want my hot infrit. We have really bonded lately, even though I got him at lvl 140, and maxed him at lvl 150. He finishes those pesky skeles that somehow escape my 1ko. Also I love doing a CL+Infrit combo at road of regreat 5. I don't want no dumb ice cube stalking me.

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Warhodes 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lol, It makes more sense to have it the way it was in terms of attacking (since ice wizards lack fire, they get a helping hand in the form of a fire summon), but in reality a real ice wizard would summon an ice type being.

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Abysseon 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] FightinDuck : I still want my hot infrit. We have really bonded lately, even though I got him at lvl 140, and maxed him at lvl 150. He finishes those pesky skeles that somehow escape my 1ko. Also I love doing a CL+Infrit combo at road of regreat 5. I don't want no dumb ice cube stalking me. [/quote] *hands fightinduck an ice cube*

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FreezYa + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Whhhattt! I just finished my ifrit quest! T~T.

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SomeGuyXXX 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pfft, I want an Ifrit. What about us Buccs, heh? Maybe Super Saiyan isn't enough for me? Naw, screw it, we get overpowered defense bypassing Demolition. HAHAAAAAAAAA~

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Escaped 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I wouldn't want Elquines standing right next to me, got plenty of other skills I can freeze with. And elquines looks like a huge slab of floating ice.

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wastedmytime 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Elquines is drop dead sexy and im gonna miss him/her =[

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dragonxlzero 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i like my ifit i can BF with it but now idk though i dont really use them againt bosses

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Abysseon 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What's wrong with elquines? Who wouldn't want a giant piece of ice floating next to them? D:

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Belkin802g 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

did big bang already happen O_O

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Abysseon 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Belkin802g : did big bang already happen O_O [/quote] No, its not even completed in kms yet.

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Kalemora 07/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Abysseon : What's wrong with elquines? Who wouldn't want a giant piece of ice floating next to them? D: [/quote] I don't. D: I think Ifrit looks so much better. :X

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