Next person to say holy arrow sucks...

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thread starter MyDream 03/19/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ugh. Next person to say holy arrow sucks, I'm going to rip your head off. Holy arrow in no way sucks. Alot of these people don't even have Clerics themselves, and if they do, it isn't high enough leveled for them to know! My cleric has lvl 28/30 holy arrow and its efn awesome. ._. Why do people say it sucks? 1) Takes off more dmg then magic claw for the most part when its higher leveled (most part meaning things like those spiders in Ludi that are holy strong) 2) Magic claw gets old fast and holy arrow is clerics only actually attack skill (heal against undead discluded) 3) Holy arrow pwns dark/undead monsters. Heck, I'm lvl 57 and I can solo jr. rog with holy arrow. Jr. rog is weak against holy attacks! >_> theres lots more reasons I just can't think of right at this moment. Mk just wanted to add, we can let this thread die now, as much as I love seeing each side (especially the one that agrees with me) I have to say its all basically the same. Although I'd like to point out some things: - STOP saying what a Cleric is and isn't and its skills, when you don't have a Cleric. I believe I've seen one player on here whose character is a spearman? Well, mr/mrs/miss Spearman how can you say anything about Clerics when you don't have one? Unless you had decided not to write in down on your character list. - Also, saying harrow sucks because of low dmg, or that clerics suck because of low dmg is just stupid. Dmg isn't everything. - o.O Ever notice how alot of the people saying that you won't use harrow in 3rd job are lvl 30-40 Clerics? (I know there were some higher, even a preist) Although there are Preists who posted and said that you WILL use it, and that they use it. I suppose that all depends on your build. - xD For whomever asked if I was a solo cleric, not exactly. I'm party and solo to some extend, because I do both fairly equally. I plan on maxing everything but teleport, for those wondering my skill build. Wether you think thats smart or not I don't care. >_> I know I use harrow more then teleport, and since I have quite a few sin/dit friends willing to haste me I'm fine with that. - :p Whoever said you can't get macis horns, cargo eyes, ect. without buying them if you don't steal them from your party you obviously have no friends. NO FRIENDS. God, look at your buddy list. My lvl 6x fighter friend was so kind to help collect them for me. If you have friends, you don't need to teleport and steal items like EW from your party - they'll split it or let you have it, 'cause they're your friends. Yeah probably some more stuff to say but w/e.

danzilla 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hehe... HOLY ARROW SUCKS. FIRE ARROWS ARE WAY BETTER!!!

duckdumps 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Oh my god i hate you noobs who say "liek omg shining ray is so much better" because the fact is that A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL NOT GET TO LVL 70, Holy Arrow owns as its is an offensive skill for clerics for most of their career because MOST WILL NOT MAKE IT TO 3rd job (im sorry if you did mke it to 3rd job or have experienced 3rd job but i am just saying that this annoys me.

iforgot120 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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upperfrits 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Support clerics shouldn't put anything on it I guess... I think it sucks.. My heads still on.. Claw is faster (but boring tho) and the speed of the claw makes up for the damage of the Holy Arrow.. This was my opinion...

BunnyxJasiie 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Holy Arrow is so MUCH more interesting and POWERFUL. Lol, i mean. Fire mage....their attack is only a fire arrow. Doesnt it get boring using only fire arrow!!!??? I mean, clerics got heal, bless, and everything else. Plus holy arrow, looks way cooler =]

upperfrits 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Uh, clerics got only one.. element..?? F/P or I/L mages two.. they got slow (useless but fun sometimes) they got meditation and they can get way bigger damage numbers on the screen. Cleric is party class... =)

yoshimix99 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

holy arrow SUCK!!! jkjk their cool but lvl 30 holy arrow = lvl 1 shining ray

Monica 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

for those who think s ray is good i can tell you that s ray is slow! in soloing (1v1) holy a beat the hell out of s ray from the speed also mp usage! no kidding! between fire a isn't any how really better than holy a! in long term fire a does less damage than holy a on evil/undead monsters! P.S. for those who don't have a cleric (or i should say PRIEST) or a priest >> DON"T MAKE A COMMENTS ON IT! YOU DON"T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

duckdumps 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

THANK YOU FOR CLEARING THAT UP

HappyNazgul + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SIIIIGH.... Holy arrow does suck... Here are all the pros and cons of holy arrow, and I get along with magic claw pretty easily (P.S. I'm lvl 61 cleric with maxed mp eater, bless, invincible, heal, and 4 tele) [I compare holy arrow with claw AND heal] [first, which one is better training on each type of monster] *undead are affected by heal, devil based aren't -----------------------------1st----2nd----3rd------------------------------ undead with low mdef: heal, arrow, claw undead with high mdef: heal, arrow, claw normal with low mdef: claw, arrow normal with high mdef: arrow and claw are the same devil with low mdef: arrow, claw (they're pretty close on this one) devil with high mdef: arrow, claw *normal includes fire/ice Yes, I know, arrow basically dominates the devil class. Claw dominates the normal class, and heal dominates the undead class. More elaboration on this later. Actual pros/cons against claw: cons: less chance of mp eater working (claw attacks twice) slower than claw less range than claw (can't go through walls) not only is it slower to cast, but it takes 1/2 sec to get to the enemy, whereas claw takes 0 sec against low mdef normal, claw does same damage, so it is a 30 sp waste pros: more dmg against undead (base 120 instead of 80) if normal monster has high mdef, claw will do less damage (but the damage will equal out because claw is faster) looks cooler (w/e...) change of attack from claw, makes it less boring (w/e again...) pros/cons of arrw vs. heal: cons: ALL devil based have a horrible spawn, which makes lvling much harder not a jump attack (heal is) not a mob attack less range than heal (heal can go up and down, arrow is only sideways) against 2 or more monsters, heal does more damage than arrow (specified later) heal kills mobs faster doesn't take 1/2 of a sec to get to the monster faster casting speed heal lvls faster because it's a mob skill pros: against 1 enemy, arrow does more damage more mastery (specified later) can do damage to more classes (not just undead) greater range on A LINEAR PATH, and few maps apply to this miscelaneous cons: another skill will be left at 1 if HA is maxed: -teleport you need this skill in 2nd and 3rd job alike for tele casting. If left at 1, it will burn mp like crazy, which burns money. -mp eater this will keep your mp from decreasing, which helps throughout 2nd and 3rd job, especially at lvl 40-60+. Without it, you will burn lots of money and you will have to repot more, having to go through werewolves if training on coolies -invincible takes off up to 1000 damage when fighting things such as bains. You NEED it to survive the higher lvls. -bless right now, there is a belief going on that a cleric without bless sucks, and that less parties will allow that cleric in. The dex less warriors love the +20 accuracy it gives, and the +20 avoid helps even more than invincible in some cases. Even death teddys (lvl 85) miss me about 1/5 times with bless on (not making this up). I looked at the dam

doghater93 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the only reason why they say that it sucks is because when you become a priest, you can use shining ray to own and it is much more powerful than holy arrow

k10ty + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok here is yet another argument that can go both ways! If you want to solo alot more and like to do more damage then the HA build is your choice, if you like to save money and have better support skills and party more then the party build is your choice. HA is pretty awsome, and people always underestimate its power but when maxed you do some pretty sweet damage! I personally went with the Party build because i really like those skills and its more effective to ME and heal is better xp >_< and also my friend convinced me to do it. But if damage is your thing go HA. Like i said before it can go both ways. And yes please if your not a cleric dont say HA sucks..morons. btw HappyNazgul great job there, you really backed up ur point with cold hard facts =] making me more happy i didnt do HA!!

Uberon 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

HA sucks because i dont have Cleric. Just kidding. Yes it does sucks because u can not solo Rog at 57. He will One hit u w/o MG. If u got MG then u have to constantly drinking elixirs. If u constantly drinking Elixir how do u shoot HA? If u cant shoot HA how do u solo Rog? If u cant solo Rog ... er Anyway most ppl say it sucks because most ppl use Heal to train. More effeciency (MP Eater work better with mob attacks), only one button spamming etc.

god6444 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i think people say it sucks because lvl 1 shining ray is better than lvl 30 holy arrow...and it takes 10 lvls to max holy arrow, when i can go from lvl 69-70 and get an attack much better

tradewemust 03/20/06 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The arguement is kinda... what to say... pointless. As i've said in the first couple pages, HA doesn't suck, its just that skill points should be put into something for useful (use 30 valuble sp on an attack that isn't THAT (notice the that) much better than magic claw