unfair for dedicated mage players

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thread starter tophercstr Nov 02 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

To those dedicated mage players out there, Do you feel cheated of the mage pride now that other jobs outside the mage circle are getting ultimates? Ultimates used to be exclusively just for mages. If you wanted an ultimate skill, you make a mage. It was something we worked hard for. It is our pride. But now, these new jobs are getting too. Do you feel cheated? I do. Edit: I'm not talking about the cooldown or spammable ultimates. I never mentioned the word "cooldown" until I edited it. I'm not talking about BB patch that balances everyones skills. I'm talking about other jobs HAVING ultimates ... Seriously, learn how to read...

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nynnja 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Indeed. </3 Cooldown.

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CuaToiTim + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not really, mages werent exactly design to just spam ultimates O_O. Edit: if you really think about it dks were the first ones to actually get an ultimate.

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ChibiKC 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I dont.

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EmpireSun + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It took me 4 years to get my fire/poison to lvl 120 and by saying that, I can tell you that I don't even care if all classes get ultimate. I will just play my character and have fun with it.

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shenron 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But paladins have always had an ultimate. People always forget heaven's hammer. Same exact area hit as genesis, meteor, and blizzard. It dosent kill stuff, but 1/1 and a crapton of dmg to bosses is always good. And for people worried about the cooldown, from someone wt a 20 sec on hammer, don't worry, its not as bad as you think. Plus if you get CO it goes down to 20 sec.

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ikarntspall 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What else is getting ultimates?

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Kalemora 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No, I never made my Mages for ultimates. o_o;

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iSmashBugs 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Actually, @TS, you are wrong. DK's had ultimates first. so your whole point is invalid. and Pallies have ultimates too.

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SilverFoxR 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

First off, don't you think it's more unfair that you used and abused such a broken skill, which turned 120-200 into a cakewalk compared to all other classes, allowing you to outlevel all other classes by a factor of 3 (at the least), control or take any map you want, monopolize events and sell leech to make a profit? Here's the major point I want to bring across - Genesis, Meteor and Blizzard were NEVER meant to be spam-cast like they are now. That is why they had such a high MP cost - to be used sparringly or as a last-ditch attack. The only time it was ever MEANT to be spammed was if you activated Infinity. However, thanks to NLC potions such as Mana Bulls and Gingerales (which other versions of MS don't have), it became easy to abuse these spells. This is why all ultimates have been given a 30 second cool-down - because they are completely unbalanced otherwise.

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RobCorso + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] CuaToiTim : Not really, mages werent exactly design to just spam ultimates O_O. Edit: if you really think about it dks were the first ones to actually get an ultimate. [/quote] What were (pre -BB) they supposed to train with 4th job if they weren't made for spamming ultimates? I don't see any good attacks, do you? ~looks at mage skills~ OT: ya, ikr, only reason i made tis character was for blizzard (although i never planned on using it to train), but now since almost all new classes get an ultimate, what are mages known for? mobbing? not the best at that. 1v1? certainly not the best @ that. Dot? ok, but thats not useful unless you're good @ one of the above. AND @ ABOVE, no one ever said using them, just feel cheated that all new classes get ultimates, and outdo mages in other places too. Doesn't necessarily relate to cooldown. Mages have nothing, ~sigh, waits for flame~

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darkspawn980 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] CuaToiTim : Not really, mages werent exactly design to just spam ultimates O_O. Edit: if you really think about it dks were the first ones to actually get an ultimate. [/quote] thank you, what does TS think we Dragon knights felt when we saw that mages got an attack that does 4~5x the damage of ours, no cooldown, and no 30% cost to boot

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CuaToiTim 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] RobCorso : What were (pre -BB) they supposed to train with 4th job if they weren't made for spamming ultimates? I don't see any good attacks, do you? ~looks at mage skills~ OT: ya, ikr, only reason i made tis character was for blizzard (although i never planned on using it to train), but now since almost all new classes get an ultimate, what are mages known for? mobbing? not the best at that. 1v1? certainly not the best @ that. Dot? ok, but thats not useful unless you're good @ one of the above. AND @ ABOVE, no one ever said using them, just feel cheated that all new classes get ultimates, and outdo mages in other places too. Doesn't necessarily relate to cooldown. Mages have nothing, ~sigh, waits for flame~ [/quote] Mages were known for magic attacks and when it was only adventurers mages and the dks were the only ones with ultimates. becasically 4th job mages were only designed in the picture of only 4 or 5 classes of adventuers and no new classes. But guess wat if mages were truely only meant to just train with ultimates why do they have 3-4 other mobbing attacks? wouldn't it just be smarter of wizet to just leave mages with just the ultimate skill rather then giving them a backpack full of other 4th job attacking skills. Besides the whole fact 4th mages were so horrible was duie to a fail magic attack formula, which they are fixing now after bb. like silver fox said earlier ultimates were ment to conjunction with just infinity, they werent meant to spam because of the mp pot resriction. Now imma just say mages now can be something but it all boils down to funding.

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JVIaplevoyager 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No, i'm happy. I always liked lightning better and that will shine in 4th job for I/L's. I want the BB to come although I want to get to 140 first. It's a nice milestone.

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Ravens 11/02/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

mages where never the first ones to have a map hit move and besides paralyze is going to become a GOOD skill now and I wanted paralyze over meteo

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