Is my leveling speed good?

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thread starter TehBleach Oct 06 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm getting about 66%/3 hours at WR. (On 1x) Seems so slow but I just started training again so I don't really have a general idea about leveling speeds anymore...

My Characters: NaturalMist - 64 Mardia Gunslinger

IVIapleIVIonkey 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

that is kinda slow, if u have good damage go to Jasters they give great exp for ur lvl but they might be hard to kill so pt w/ other ppl

My Characters: g0dlygunz - 95 Scania Outlaw

Maxilonius 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

train on 2x! or if u have lotsa nx, go for 4x+!

My Characters: RamenIsLife - 35 Galicia Blade Acolyte

MeForYou 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

if ur lvl 64 go bpq. i wud lvl 2 times a day in liek 2 hrs or so. (if ur good/ exped.)

My Characters: DeadBySpear - 95 Broa Dragon Knight

Shadowrageo 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Go bpq.. your dmg is a problem I think ....

My Characters: conangun - 71 Windia Outlaw

shmexyazn7 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yeah ur damage probably is a problem with that exp.. i was getting 100% an hour at lvl 64 on my hunter 1x.. i hope that you're invisi shot-ing. you shouldn't really use double shot.

My Characters: mesarzplawx - 94 Mardia Ranger

TehBleach + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Shadowrageo : Go bpq.. your dmg is a problem I think .... [/quote] My range is 1010-1801. I DON'T think that's a problem. Invisi-shot sucks for wr. You can't snipe and you have to be relatively close. PLUS, it shoots slow as hell. I'm not experienced at BPQ.

My Characters: NaturalMist - 64 Mardia Gunslinger

Shadowrageo 10/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TehBleach Ok....... dmg is way above avg :P Idk then, What I do is use the portal up and then make my way down. very fast at my lvl

My Characters: conangun - 71 Windia Outlaw

shmexyazn7 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

2nd job slingers never had the greatest range... what do you want to do, double shot it? T.T it shoots at a good rate speed(you're just comparing it to double shot, one of the fastest skills in the game) and it hits good, it's not like you have any better mobbing skills. and it doesnt matter if you're close you can stun them. lets see: you Don't like to wind raider the fast way, and you 'aren't experienced at bpq' why not take away the two best options, nothing wrong with that.

My Characters: mesarzplawx - 94 Mardia Ranger

SerpentzWrath 10/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

A little on the slow side, you probably aren't cycling the map properly, that or you're forgetting to spawn more WRs every couple minutes by killing the stormbreakers. On mobs of 3 or more, use invis shot. If there's only 1 or 2, use double. Train with a warrior pot. Gunslinger training is hell, so persevere.

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TehBleach 10/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] shmexyazn7 : 2nd job slingers never had the greatest range... what do you want to do, double shot it? T.T it shoots at a good rate speed(you're just comparing it to double shot, one of the fastest skills in the game) and it hits good, it's not like you have any better mobbing skills. and it doesnt matter if you're close you can stun them. lets see: you Don't like to wind raider the fast way, and you 'aren't experienced at bpq' why not take away the two best options, nothing wrong with that. [/quote] You act as if they're stunned, they can't hit you. Yeah, I doubleshot it. Yeah, I suck at BPQ. Yeah, Dead Scarecrows are about the same speed as WR. WR =/= best option in the game.

My Characters: NaturalMist - 64 Mardia Gunslinger

Maaaaaaason 10/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, why don't you stun -> Invisible Shot -> Finish stranglers with Double Shot? When I was at your level, an Invisible Shot was close (or did more) damage than Double Shot. And the fact that it can mob > Double Shot.

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TehBleach 10/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Maaaaaaason : Well, why don't you stun -> Invisible Shot -> Finish stranglers with Double Shot? When I was at your level, an Invisible Shot was close (or did more) damage than Double Shot. And the fact that it can mob > Double Shot. [/quote] It seems that Doubleshot activates about 2x as fast as Invisi shot. Lemme do some math here. Doubleshot: 110% (x2) at (let's say) 1x speed. -7 mp. 220% dmg, -7 mp. Invisible Shot: 170% (x3) at .5x speed. -30 MP. 255% dmg, -30 mp. (It's 255 and not 510 because it shoots 2x slower than double shot.) 35% dmg difference. Big deal so invisible shot is barely better than Doubleshot. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! Doubleshot uses much less MP than invisible shot. (Yeah, I care about MP.) and also, You have to be relatively close to the enemy to actually get invisible shot to hit, while doubleshot has a much better range. Meaning I can snipe off of ledges, potentially saving me HP pots (And even saving me from death). And that 255% dmg is only relating to a mob of 3. If there's 2, doubleshot is WAY better, (But you'll probably admit that that was the case in the 1st place) So to ME, that 35% doesn't really compensate for range and MP.

My Characters: NaturalMist - 64 Mardia Gunslinger

Excant 10/10/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Real time experience>Theoretical calculations. Also you say that you care so much about the amount of MP you use, but you don't care about the bullets lost? The sheer amount of bullets used by double shot will require you to go back to town much more often than invisible shot which is a hassel and overall decreases your total % gain. Invisible shot also might have worse horizontal range, but it has better vertical range.

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BrickTheHun + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] TehBleach : It seems that Doubleshot activates about 2x as fast as Invisi shot. Lemme do some math here. DS is ~143/min, and IS is ~87, according to SPerry.net. Doubleshot: 110% (x2) at (let's say) 1x speed. -7 mp. 220% dmg, -7 mp. Invisible Shot: 170% (x3) at .5x speed. -30 MP. 255% dmg, -30 mp. (It's 255 and not 510 because it shoots 2x slower than double shot.) 35% dmg difference. Big deal so invisible shot is barely better than Doubleshot. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! [/quote] DS is ~143/min, and IS is ~87, according to SPerry.net. The difference is much less than 200%. Therefore, DS is 523%/sec. On 1, 2, and 3 monsters, IS is 246%/sec, 493%/sec, and 739%/sec, respectively. A 41% advantage (739 / 523 = ?), or even 35%, is large.

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