Outlaw is a disappointing 3rd job :(

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thread starter zealously Sep 05 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Burst Fire is just simply so ugly to look at. At least my Ranger had a cool animation for Strafe D: Not to mention all I'm supposed to do to level up until 4th job is Newtie. I don't even think I'm supposed to use any of my other skills other than Burst Fire and Octopus o_o And I probably won't make Corsair, seeing as how I can't even make 4th job on my bowman D:

My Characters: SleekSky - 120 Bellocan Ranger

zealously 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jwoy : Okay, let split these up. Outlaw Triple Fire = 210% x 3 = 630% Triple Fire = 87 shots/minute Damage per min = 54810% Hermit Lucky 7 = 150% x 2 = 300% Lucky 7 = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Lucky 7 of SP = 150% Damage per min = 30000% Damage per min with Critical = 50000% Damage per min with SP = 45000% Damage per win with SP and Critical = 75000% Ranger Strafe = 100% x 4 = 400% Strafe = 88 per min Critical Shot = +100% Damage per min = 35200% Damage per min with all Critical = 70400% See, outlaw sucks. Let see 4th job Corsair Cannon = 380% x 4 = 1520% Cannon = 95 per min Damage per min = 144400% Night Lord Triple Throw = 150% x 3 = 450% Triple Throw = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Triple Throw of SP = 225% Damage per min = 45000% Damage per min with Critical = 75000% Damage per min with SP = 67500% Damage per min with SP and Critical = 107500% Bowmaster Hurricane = 100% x 1 = 100% Hurricane = 500 per min Critical shot = +100% damage Damage per min = 50000% Damage per min with critical = 100000% Now, Corsair win, by a lot. [/quote] Inaccurate. You can't do it by percentages because guns and claws have much lower base ATT than bows.

My Characters: SleekSky - 120 Bellocan Ranger

nivlek321 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I guess you should have taken into consideration the other builds. If you're bored of sniping newts, start putting points into the ice/fire attack. Training at kents or goby is a bit slower than newts and probably more pot consuming, but at least you'll be more "entertained".

My Characters: MysticaiCamp - 81 Scania Outlaw

PaintStains 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I quit my outlaw at 74, and made a marauder. The switch between outlaw and gunslinger came too fast, I wasn't ready for it :S I like being able to still use my older skills.

My Characters: Elophant - 110 Khaini Marauder

infferrno 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pirates are a... patient class. In the beginning, there is no doubt, we suck. Our true potential shines when we hit 4th job.

My Characters: FooIishPride - 104 Bera Marauder

chatman1382 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i have a corsiar ( check my characters ) i just leeched my outlaw all the way up to 120... ( when leeching actually was still good ) i must say corsair's ARE fun!

My Characters: Cr4ckBI4de - 108 Windia Blade Specialist

MyNaginata 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] zealously : Inaccurate. You can't do it by percentages because guns and claws have much lower base ATT than bows. [/quote] And lucky seven is in no way based off a sin's damage range. It's based on luk and atk.

My Characters: OhGodOhMan - 120 Bera Corsair

myrdrex 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

As soon as you can hit and punch through Skelie damage resistance (due to level difference), just play in the skelie mini dungeon. It's much faster than Newties (It got me from 100-120 in no time), and it's a TON more fun that Newties. With your freezing attack, you'll hardly even get hit. But, to be safe, you'll need to either use those 20 free AP resets to HP wash, or just bring a HB mule. I just have my HB and HS mule with me, so I can easily suck up the Skelies hits. A couple weeks back I was a simply Outlaw, now I'm cursing around in my boat thanks to Skelie mini dungeon. =) I skipped most of those boring Newtie levels this way.

My Characters: ulgarbosnot - 50 Scania Aran in Memory

inazumai + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jwoy : Okay, let split these up. Outlaw Triple Fire = 210% x 3 = 630% Triple Fire = 87 shots/minute Damage per min = 54810% Hermit Lucky 7 = 150% x 2 = 300% Lucky 7 = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Lucky 7 of SP = 150% Damage per min = 30000% Damage per min with Critical = 50000% Damage per min with SP = 45000% Damage per win with SP and Critical = 75000% Ranger Strafe = 100% x 4 = 400% Strafe = 88 per min Critical Shot = +100% Damage per min = 35200% Damage per min with all Critical = 70400% See, outlaw sucks. Let see 4th job Corsair Cannon = 380% x 4 = 1520% Cannon = 95 per min Damage per min = 144400% Night Lord Triple Throw = 150% x 3 = 450% Triple Throw = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Triple Throw of SP = 225% Damage per min = 45000% Damage per min with Critical = 75000% Damage per min with SP = 67500% Damage per min with SP and Critical = 107500% Bowmaster Hurricane = 100% x 1 = 100% Hurricane = 500 per min Critical shot = +100% damage Damage per min = 50000% Damage per min with critical = 100000% Now, Corsair win, by a lot. [/quote] Worst. Calculations. Ever. Sorry, but really, this doesn't prove anything. According to this, buccaneers are the strongest characters (or heros, idk). You have to use the formulas based on stats and weapon multipliers, its a very very very important factor. OT: this thread is really demotivating O_O

My Characters: Agini - 74 KradiaEMS Gunslinger

Just2LoveU 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jwoy : Okay, let split these up. Outlaw Triple Fire = 210% x 3 = 630% Triple Fire = 87 shots/minute Damage per min = 54810% Hermit Lucky 7 = 150% x 2 = 300% Lucky 7 = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Lucky 7 of SP = 150% Damage per min = 30000% Damage per min with Critical = 50000% Damage per min with SP = 45000% Damage per win with SP and Critical = 75000% Ranger Strafe = 100% x 4 = 400% Strafe = 88 per min Critical Shot = +100% Damage per min = 35200% Damage per min with all Critical = 70400% See, outlaw sucks. Let see 4th job Corsair Cannon = 380% x 4 = 1520% Cannon = 95 per min Damage per min = 144400% Night Lord Triple Throw = 150% x 3 = 450% Triple Throw = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Triple Throw of SP = 225% Damage per min = 45000% Damage per min with Critical = 75000% Damage per min with SP = 67500% Damage per min with SP and Critical = 107500% Bowmaster Hurricane = 100% x 1 = 100% Hurricane = 500 per min Critical shot = +100% damage Damage per min = 50000% Damage per min with critical = 100000% Now, Corsair win, by a lot. [/quote] You missed that they have different formulas/att on weapons, mastery, critical success rate, buffs, etc.

My Characters: Just2LoveU - 69 Windia Gunslinger

Pallonorsu 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] PaintStains : I quit my outlaw at 74, and made a marauder. The switch between outlaw and gunslinger came too fast, I wasn't ready for it :S I like being able to still use my older skills. [/quote] That's why I quit my Outlaw too. I quit him at 74 too =D

My Characters: Pyssykunkku - 74 KradiaEMS Outlaw

PaintStains 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Pallonorsu : That's why I quit my Outlaw too. I quit him at 74 too =D [/quote] An we look almost the exact same! LOL. It's me without nx :D

My Characters: Elophant - 110 Khaini Marauder

Pallonorsu 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I copy you even more, since I now play a Brawler. Awesome class.

My Characters: Pyssykunkku - 74 KradiaEMS Outlaw

JustUseTape 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] inazumai : Worst. Calculations. Ever. Sorry, but really, this doesn't prove anything. According to this, buccaneers are the strongest characters (or heros, idk). You have to use the formulas based on stats and weapon multipliers, its a very very very important factor. OT: this thread is really demotivating O_O [/quote] We suck, quit, quit quit! :O

My Characters: TokyHoe - 91 Windia Outlaw

jimmyjxia 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jwoy : Okay, let split these up. Outlaw Triple Fire = 210% x 3 = 630% Triple Fire = 87 shots/minute Damage per min = 54810% Hermit Lucky 7 = 150% x 2 = 300% Lucky 7 = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Lucky 7 of SP = 150% Damage per min = 30000% Damage per min with Critical = 50000% Damage per min with SP = 45000% Damage per win with SP and Critical = 75000% Ranger Strafe = 100% x 4 = 400% Strafe = 88 per min Critical Shot = +100% Damage per min = 35200% Damage per min with all Critical = 70400% See, outlaw sucks. Let see 4th job Corsair Cannon = 380% x 4 = 1520% Cannon = 95 per min Damage per min = 144400% Night Lord Triple Throw = 150% x 3 = 450% Triple Throw = 100 per min Critical throw = +100% damage Triple Throw of SP = 225% Damage per min = 45000% Damage per min with Critical = 75000% Damage per min with SP = 67500% Damage per min with SP and Critical = 107500% Bowmaster Hurricane = 100% x 1 = 100% Hurricane = 500 per min Critical shot = +100% damage Damage per min = 50000% Damage per min with critical = 100000% Now, Corsair win, by a lot. [/quote] I see that you forgot Sharp Eyes with the bowmaster <.<

My Characters: SodaPopXL - 123 Windia Hero

PaintStains 09/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Pallonorsu : I copy you even more, since I now play a Brawler. Awesome class. [/quote] ' All the way. F2

My Characters: Elophant - 110 Khaini Marauder