Hunter or Crossbowman?

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thread starter Mizzle94 Sep 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I can't seem to choose between speed over damage Hunters, or damage over speed Crossbow mans. I would appreciate it if you guys would give me the Pros and Cons of each class. And give your opinion of what class you would choose and why. I hope this will make it easier on me, and those who can't decide either. Thanks!

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wingedgemini 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I say hunter because the damage difference is not that much. This is an unbiased opinion, I have a lvl 39 xbowman also, and I prefer my hunter

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iSmashBugs 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

threads like this arent allowed. check the bowmen guides.

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AlwaysBowman 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Crossbowmen fire just as fast as hunters as long as they use booster, get your facts right...

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glare1993 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

xbows for the cheaper scrolls. When BB comes, transfer all those equips to a wild hunter

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Mizzle94 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AlwaysBowman : Crossbowmen fire just as fast as hunters as long as they use booster, get your facts right... [/quote] Actually Bows are faster. Firing Rates Bow: Normal: 78/min Norm + Booster: 88/min Fast + Booster: 92/min Crossbow: Normal: 70/min Norm + Booster: 82/min Fast + Booster: 85/min Thanks to other threads.

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Blackmanrific 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Just make a hunter, and leave.

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ilovenoobs3 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cbowers and slingers after BB is going to having the best DPM

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pastel + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

"The first thing that was proven was that over time, Bows and Xbows do similar damage to each other, at almost every level. This means that skills of the same percentage (such as Strafe or Rain/Eruption) are going to be the same damage over time. So, in this aspect, Bow = Crossbow. ======30====38.===42====50====60====70====80===90====100====110 Bow ..121.65 | 229.63 | 277.83 | 388.01 | 533.73 | 671.56 | 811.05 | 962.01 | 1124.44 | 1298.34 Xbow 127.15 | 266.01 | 319.17 | 433.61 | 576.49 | 732.49 | 902.61 | 1055.6 | 1230.81 | 1418.11 Anyways, as you can see, without scrolled equips, the damages are really weak, but they are comparative, and precise! So this is the average damage that they will have at the specified levels (with no armor and an average, unscrolled weapon). This does not include pick-up speed. This is just the average damage in their ability window. Next, we analyzed the raw percents behind the mob skill. We found that with the major attacks (IA for Xbows, Bomb and Inferno for Bows), Bow's Bomb is better than IA in mobs of 5+, and Inferno is better in mobs of 3+ (which you really don't have a mob of 2- because Strafe is more damage). Inferno with fire advantage is the most powerful mob attack known to Archers (without 4th job). Also, I suggest you read the playing styles through as well, because the playing style is really how you should choose your job. Hunter Style Hunters get the early gift of Arrow Bomb. Most of the time they will be using their primary attack from First Job, however anytime a clustered mob of 3+ monsters appear, whether it�s right in front of them or diagonally above or below them, Bomb will usually take priority over the main attack. This is easily shown on maps like Coolies, on top platforms and maps like Squids on the bottom floors, where the monsters usually cluster together. On smaller mobs, a single attack skill is traditionally used to compensate for Bomb's low impact damage. Crossbowman Style A Crossbowman is gifted with high damage early on, and a high damaging skill to boot. Unlike a Hunter, a Crossbowman's mob skill maximizes its damage over time at 3-4 enemies, thus smaller mobs are typically made. Instead of killing every monster but a few, to create a large mob, a Crossbowman may kill 6/10 platforms, so a small mob gathers on each of the remaining. Also, Crossbowmen tend to shy away from freeform mobs, ones that are difficult to knock back. If a mob isn't knocked back enough, the enemies will begin to advance towards the Crossbowman, giving little room to shoot. Things like Golems are a prime example of this. Without a proper knockback, FoG becomes almost impossible because the Crossbowman will constantly be PKBing, trying to get out of the mobs that are aggrovated towards them. Smaller mobs, like in Cloud Park, are highly inviting towards Crossbowmen. Next up was a quick (and probably biased) section on looks comparison. Nothing much to say there, pretty much, Xbows cover your face and overall, Bo

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iSmashBugs 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ilovenoobs3 : cbowers and slingers after BB is going to having the best DPM [/quote] stop lieing. it depends on the monster, what buffs, etc. overall, Sair do have the highest DPM, but WH beat both Xbow and BM. and the difference between Xbow and BM are small.

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spiritrival 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] wingedgemini : I say hunter because the damage difference is not that much. This is an unbiased opinion, I have a lvl 39 xbowman also, and I prefer my hunter [/quote] The fact that you prefer one of them means that you are biased... Also, the shooting speeds haven't been updated. The current ones are Normal Bow + Booster = 83 shots per minute Fast Bow + Booster = 92 shots per minute Normal Crossbow + Booster = 83 shots per minute Fast Crossbow + Booster = 86 shots per minute

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UselessMapler 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Niether. Merch and save money until wild hunter comes out. Also start buying/ making your items now for cheap.

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Mizzle94 09/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] spiritrival : The fact that you prefer one of them means that you are biased... Also, the shooting speeds haven't been updated. The current ones are Normal Bow + Booster = 83 shots per minute Fast Bow + Booster = 92 shots per minute Normal Crossbow + Booster = 83 shots per minute Fast Crossbow + Booster = 86 shots per minute [/quote] Thanks for the update.

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