dont make fun of illegals
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thread starter heelis 01/04/07
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 | So people think they should get "shot after they come over"? What are you smokin? Here is the reasons why mexicans come to the U.S. 1. They are poor 2. There are jobs in america 3. The average mexican pay is $4 a day (source, my geography book) 4. Many people in mexico hear that there is a better life in america Why do they cross illegaly? Why dont they just become american citizens? Good question, but here is why they dont do that 1. It costs 1.5 million dollars to become a U.S. citizen within a year 2. It is possible to become a U.S. citizen for free, but you must be on a waiting list, and it can take years to become an american, not to mention lots of paperwork and tests That is why mexicans come to america. and as for you ppl that say "why cant they stay in their own country?" Well, how about this Let us say, you are living in mexico, you are filthy poor, starving, and hungry. Lets say that you hear that 100 miles away, across the border, there is a better life where people can eat all they can eat. The thing is, it costs a milliion buckaroos to become a full american. Dont you think you would take chances, and go to america illegally? alrite, theres my post! start flaming! *Source Prentice hall "world geography, building a global prespective" |
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FabianPetit
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| she left.. after being brutally defeated in her own post... im out too, later pplz |
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stardustx 01/04/07
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 | can't we all shut up and get along? |
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Blackbaron 01/04/07
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 | FabianPetit said: "she left.. after being brutaly defeated in her own post... im out too, later pplz" lol brutally defeated |
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muffinman206 01/04/07
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| I'm leaving too. She = defeated miserably |
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hobocop 01/04/07
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| ashley3192 said: "Did you know that much of our economy depends on the hard working illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are willing to do hard labor such as construction and much, much more. I can't say its right for them to cross over the border without legal work, but I can see why they do it. Just waiting for a way to fix this problem." building things doesnt effect the economy. . . unless youre talking about paying the workers in which case it does. but that brings up a new topic. have you ever seen the difference between a construction group with mexican guys and a construction group with white guys? let me tell you, i have and they use twice as many people as the white guys do (granted at a slightly cheaper price but the number of people youre paying adds up quickly). the two groups are about equally efficient when it comes to completing the job. so, if youre building a brick wall, and you get three white guys to do it and youre paying them each 9 bucks an hour (this is purely speculation im just pulling numbers out) and they can do the job in say, a whole day's worth of work, so about 9-10 hours (there again just reference figures they might not be true). On the other hand you have 8 mexican day laborers and youre paying them 4 dollars an hour to do the same job in 7-8 hours. so: 3white guys x 9 bucks an hour x 9 hours is 243 dollars. 8day laborers x 5 dollars times 7 hours equals 280 dollars. See? it all adds up. keep in mind though that in some cases it may be cheaper. im just generalizing |
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Bensonman 01/04/07
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 | hobocop said: " Bensonman said: "Most people in the world in some way or another are illegal immigrants, infact america use to be an english colony, so unless you are native american or come from a native america family, you are an immigrant." but theres a difference if they are legal or not. I dont care who tells you, illegal immigrants ruin our economy. . . and its not just mexicans. kudos to the people who see america as the land of opportunity and decide to come here legally and start a new life. Why cant all immigrants do this? because they are affraid of paying taxes, medical bills, ect. like the rest of the citizens. instead, we cater to them. if they skin their knee, they go the doctors and taxpayers such as your parents and mine get stuck with the bill because they get free medicare." I understand that people do not wish to pay for people who do not deserve it, but, if you lived in a country or were born into a situation where, unlike the rest of the world, there was no standard of living, would you not want to leave? I imagine when they are sat in there homes if they can be called that ( im talking about the lower class citizens not the working/middle class) they do not think, america is amazing and we can have better lives, but, we wiill sponge off the people who live there. These people are desperate and want to save their families, i doubt our welfare even pops into their minds, selfish i know but when you havnt been allowed a real life yet im sure you would be pretty synical to the rest of the world, as well as selfish. Im pretty sure if you were in their situation you would do the same, remember that even when they get into america there lives arnt that great anyway so its not like they are taking your money and living some amazing life, normally they are exploited and live in groups in flats etc and only live marginaly better than they did before. |
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muffinman206 01/04/07
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| I'm leaving too. She = defeated miserably |
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Underwrath 01/04/07
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 | Bensonman said: " Underwrath said: " Bensonman said: "Most people in the world in some way or another are illegal immigrants, infact america use to be an english colony, so unless you are native american or come from a native america family, you are an immigrant." Wrong. America became a country hundreds of years ago. If you were born in America you can't immigrate into America when you already live in America." First point you 'emmigrate' to america not immigrate. Secondly, my post was not meant in a literal manner, just to emphasise a point that americans destroyed the Native americans lifestyles, traditions and cultures. Mexicans are not that big a problem, they do not affect your lifestyle to the most part, you almost killed off an entire group of people, you were not there first ( in the greater scheme of things) so its the equivalent of someone stealing a car and then complaining when someone else steals it off them." Main Entry: im�mi�grate Pronunciation: 'i-m&-"grAt Function: verb Inflected Form(s): -grat�ed; -grat�ing Etymology: Latin immigratus, past participle of immigrare to remove, go in, from in- + migrare to migrate intransitive verb : to enter and usually become established; especially : to come into a country of which one is not a native for permanent residence Also fyi, its spelled emigrate, if you want to correct me spell the word you're correcting me on correctly. Second off, there are native land reserves still, third you used immigration to display a point of destroying a culture and people, I don't see a connection, fourth illegal immigrants do affect a person's lifestyle because they don't pay for certain taxes for social structures, so the legal citizens must pay for these things yet the illegal immigrants still benefit off them. |
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LastHysteria 01/04/07
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| One out of every mexicans you see are illegal... It sort of figures... the parents are brave, for risking their life to acheive a better one, but their kids always turn out to be ungreatful little snots. </3 but nonetheless, coming in legally is much better then illegally. |
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hobocop 01/04/07
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| Bensonman said: " Underwrath said: " Bensonman said: "Most people in the world in some way or another are illegal immigrants, infact america use to be an english colony, so unless you are native american or come from a native america family, you are an immigrant." Wrong. America became a country hundreds of years ago. If you were born in America you can't immigrate into America when you already live in America." First point you 'emmigrate' to america not immigrate. ." WRONG emmigrate means to leave. . .you need to take a human geography class or something -____- |
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RisingSunX9 01/04/07
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aznganstah37 01/04/07
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| FabianPetit said: "she left.. after being brutally defeated in her own post... im out too, later pplz" maybe she has a life? |
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boredarnold 01/04/07
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 | AlexZ0123 said: "4. Our ancestors are illegal" lol |
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DoomedIdiot
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| wow, thats just greedy, you want the jobs so you can get your own game console when people are workin their butts off just to support their loved ones? i think its good that mexicans can cross over but i just wish they wouldn't spread diseases (not all but just the few that have it) i'm with you on this, steriotyping is so pointless plus, the more workers we have, the more businesses will be made economy will go higher |
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xDominatorzx 01/04/07
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| MiamiVice5 said: " Vaust said: "4 dollars an HOUR. DURRR. Another thing, uh, THEY WASTE OUR MONEY. Emotionally, I say it's right they should find themselves freedom in America. Logically, I think it wastes the money we already are in debt a 11 trillion odd number already, and they should NOT be shot, but should be forced back into Mexico." They may waste money, but who's wasting the most money in your country right now? Please tell me that." Hmm..... I dunno >.> anyways.. I would have to agree though. They should be forced back to Mexico. OR only have a certain amount of people to cross the border. In the place I live, 8/10 people are Mexican. Yea thats right. There's an elementary house infront of my house. 90/100 kids are Mexican. Well, and they reproduce quickly. It's either that or too many people are jumping the border. Plus most of them drive big trucks. They waste gas. They cause inflation. I would have to say though to tell them to go back. Not to a certain group but THERE's TOO MANY OF YOU GUYS. And to you guys who are gonna tell me," What if your race is becomes larger and larger? Are you gonna move out?" Well, I came here legally, my mom had to wait; and we're living a happy life. I want you mexicans to live a happy life as well. Just cut down people who are going to be happy and jump the border in 1/100 and we'll have an alright population. Screw it. Cut it down to 1/1000. btw I'm rewriting this so you guys know what i'm talking about. >.> |
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