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thread starter Lenn1e Aug 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Does Aran get a HP boost from Big Bang? 0.o And also, what other skills get affected?
My Characters: HydrasFury - 64 Windia Spearman
40rounds + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Our critical rate is reduced from 70% (10+6*10) to 65% (5+10+3*10+20) Also the whole formula for criticals has been changed, which is what makes us much weaker, not so much the change in critical rate. Combo Smash, Fenrir and Tempest were nerfed. Tempest (on bosses) by A LOT. Overswing etc has been buffed quite a bit. Body Pressure nerfed.
My Characters: TrainRail - 50 Broa Brawler
hyperfire7 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] 40rounds : Our critical rate is reduced from 70% (10+6*10) to 65% (5+10+3*10+20) Also the whole formula for criticals has been changed, which is what makes us much weaker, not so much the change in critical rate. Combo Smash, Fenrir and Tempest were nerfed. Tempest (on bosses) by A LOT. Overswing etc has been buffed quite a bit. Body Pressure nerfed. [/quote] Where does the extra 10% critical chance come from? Arans have 60% total Critical chance right now, and gets boosted 5% after Big Bang. All Combo Finishers receive nerfs, but by 4th job you almost never use them, so its negligible. It's not just Overswing that receives buffs, Full Swing also gets buffed too. You also forgot the best part: Snow Charge gets ridiculously buffed from 110% total dmg to 135%. (So if you had a range of 4000~8000, Snow charge right now would buff it to 4400~8800, but after Big Bang it's gonna be 5400~10800).
My Characters: MetalCoconut - 143 Bera Aran in Hope
darkdog241 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] hyperfire7 : Where does the extra 10% critical chance come from? Arans have 60% total Critical chance right now, and gets boosted 5% after Big Bang. All Combo Finishers receive nerfs, but by 4th job you almost never use them, so its negligible. It's not just Overswing that receives buffs, Full Swing also gets buffed too. You also forgot the best part: Snow Charge gets ridiculously buffed from 110% total dmg to 135%. (So if you had a range of 4000~8000, Snow charge right now would buff it to 4400~8800, but after Big Bang it's gonna be 5400~10800). [/quote] I have no idea where people keep getting the 10% base crit. It says nothing of the sort in the description.
My Characters: Kredrodis - 155 Bera Aran in Hope
DarkShot57 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
So do Arans get additional hp?
My Characters: Darkstarz750 - 112 Bera Hermit
generaltsoji + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] darkdog241 : I have no idea where people keep getting the 10% base crit. It says nothing of the sort in the description. [/quote] "Default critical damage is 100% and critical rate is 10%" Read closer pls Also, going through an entire 3rd job and 20+ levels of 4th job without realizing you hit 7/10 crits and not 6/10 at 100 combo is kinda sad Edit: Sorry, Basil's skill descriptions are better than Nexon's? lul
My Characters: OneLegitDit - 122 DemethosGMS Shadower
dragonice1 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] darkdog241 : I have no idea where people keep getting the 10% base crit. It says nothing of the sort in the description. [/quote] takebak3r taught me that arans have a 10% base critical. I figured my level 1 combo critical was hitting too many red numbers. Also, arrow rain doesn't tell you it gets an increased range at level 11/21. Lot's of skills have small things that they don't bother telling you.
My Characters: xdragonice00 - 142 Windia Aran in Hope
hyperfire7 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] generaltsoji : "Default critical damage is 100% and critical rate is 10%" Read closer pls Also, going through an entire 3rd job and 20+ levels of 4th job without realizing you hit 7/10 crits and not 6/10 at 100 combo is kinda sad [/quote] How come I never recall hitting a critical damage when my combo is <10? And no, I don't have an Adventurer ring.
My Characters: MetalCoconut - 143 Bera Aran in Hope
patrickpi666 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
patrickpi666[quote] generaltsoji : "Default critical damage is 100% and critical rate is 10%" Read closer pls Also, going through an entire 3rd job and 20+ levels of 4th job without realizing you hit 7/10 crits and not 6/10 at 100 combo is kinda sad [/quote] 1) It doesn't say that at all or at least not in-game. 2)When you have lvl 1 Crit and you do a double crit, you can highly doubt it's only 1%. >_> @above You get critical once you reach 10 combo only because before that the passive skill is not actived.The skill active itself at 10 combo and start with 10%base crit rate and 100% dmg.
My Characters: PatPerma200 - 136 Khaini Aran in Hope
hyperfire7 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] patrickpi666 : 1) It doesn't say that at all or at least not in-game. 2)When you have lvl 1 Crit and you do a double crit, you can highly doubt it's only 1%. >_> @above You get critical once you reach 10 combo only because before that the passive skill is not actived.The skill active itself at 10 combo and start with 10%base crit rate and 100% dmg. [/quote] So when my combo counter is at 10, I have a 16% chance of critical?
My Characters: MetalCoconut - 143 Bera Aran in Hope
patrickpi666 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
patrickpi666[quote] hyperfire7 : So when my combo counter is at 10, I have a 16% chance of critical? [/quote] Yes and 110% damage.
My Characters: PatPerma200 - 136 Khaini Aran in Hope
dragonice1 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
To anyone who still doesn't understand it's a 10% base, Compare an adenturer ring with level 1 combo critical. Notice that the 1% kill rate on the adventurer rings come very far apart, it's not something you really count on at all, you don't even consider it. It's just an added bonus whenever it activates. Now notice the combo critical, how every few attacks you get a red number. You even get double criticals, both rates should be 1%. It's 10% base, and it activates at 10 combos.
My Characters: xdragonice00 - 142 Windia Aran in Hope
hyperfire7 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
patrickpi666 : You mean 110% additional damage. I knew about the damage part, but not the 10% base critical part. We don't even get the description of that ingame.
My Characters: MetalCoconut - 143 Bera Aran in Hope
generaltsoji 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] patrickpi666 : 1) It doesn't say that at all or at least not in-game. 2)When you have lvl 1 Crit and you do a double crit, you can highly doubt it's only 1%. >_> @above You get critical once you reach 10 combo only because before that the passive skill is not actived.The skill active itself at 10 combo and start with 10%base crit rate and 100% dmg. [/quote] Does it really not say that in game? I was too lazy to log on and check so I went to the basil character skills, found it over there. But yes the other part about it not activating before 10 combo is true
My Characters: OneLegitDit - 122 DemethosGMS Shadower
patrickpi666 08/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
patrickpi666[quote] hyperfire7 : patrickpi666 : You mean 110% additional damage. I knew about the damage part, but not the 10% base critical part. We don't even get the description of that ingame. [/quote] Oops yeah 110%additional damage when it's a critical hit.
My Characters: PatPerma200 - 136 Khaini Aran in Hope
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