Using the AP reset~

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thread starter MagicTsukai Jul 20 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Anyways, we're getting 20AP resets if you're lvl70+ what is the optimal LuK to have, I might decrease/increase my luk depending on what changes there will be after BigBang patch? either that, or should, we, mages try HP washing? xD how much hp can we gain? wait, can some1 explain to me how it works?

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Russisch 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm aiming for lots and lots of LUK. I'm LUKless right now, so 20 extra LUK really helps.

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MagicTsukai 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

u guys get extra mana compared to normal luk -.-' kinda unfair

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Jellow 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i just want to know if hp/mp washing for a mage is even a good idea. if it isn't then these ap resets are pretty useless for me T.T

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MagicTsukai 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

thats what i want to know, we've got massive mana reserves that won't be used anymore, once our ultimates are gone. having the extra hp can be helpful, for things that dispel us, and we won't require to max magic guard either xD we can leave the skill to absorb 50% dmg or something if we get enough hp, haha

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PreludeMage 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I will say that it depends on your needs. Using Magic Guard on a Mage would cause MP to take 4/5 of the damage, while HP takes 1/5. You MP would be 4x your HP if you want optimal survivability. Most Mages would have around 6x - 7.5x instead of 4x (it will be different for Evans since their MG will be reduced to 70% if I remember correctly). However, there is still the aspect of training and pot costs. With less MP, % pots will recover less, causing you to pay more over time. Someone answered the question about reset for me in another thread. For Mages with Max MP Increase, each point will deduct 90MP and HP will be increased 10 - 20 HP (50 - 100 HP if you consider MG).

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omegablivion 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm going to remain lukless on my Evan, simply because even though magic accuracy has changed, it hasn't changed enough to make luklesses miss often. And the damage will still be good.

BBD 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

A) Mages DO NOT NEED HP WASHING! It is better off just Magic Guard than HP washing. B) This is an opotunity to make your LUK as high as possible before BIG BANG, LUK = Level+3. C) Reg LUK users will find this event useless. Me personally. I am using my mages AP resets on my pirate since my mage is all ready for the big bang.

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MagicTsukai 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yea, this sux for reg mages. dam lukless get extra mp out of this, makes me angry! D:< having higher hp could be helpful for skills that dont bypass magic guard xD or may allows us to pinkbean? pink bean hits really high dmg

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PreludeMage 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BBD : A) Mages DO NOT NEED HP WASHING! It is better off just Magic Guard than HP washing. B) This is an opotunity to make your LUK as high as possible before BIG BANG, LUK = Level+3. C) Reg LUK users will find this event useless. Me personally. I am using my mages AP resets on my pirate since my mage is all ready for the big bang. [/quote] A) Perhaps not, but it certainly helps survivability. Right now, I can survive up to 22400 with HB. If I get 10 HP each reset, I will be able to survive 22800 (okay, not much more). If I get 20HP each time, I would be able to survive 23200, which still isn't all that amazing, but come on... that is just washing one level. I would lose 450MP... big deal. I have almost 22k, I have some MP to spare. B) You want it as LOW as possible while still being able to wield your end-game items. C) Reset Luk into Int? However, if you get 0 Luk from all of your equips combined, I suppose that you would find this useless.

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BBD + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MagicTsukai : yea, this sux for reg mages. dam lukless get extra mp out of this, makes me angry! D:< having higher hp could be helpful for skills that dont bypass magic guard xD or may allows us to pinkbean? pink bean hits really high dmg [/quote] Magic Guard > HP Washing (for mages) Walmart Logo: Save Money Live Better The only class that need HP washing under the Mage family will be Battle Mage but they are not even pass the testing phase. @ above My LUK is 86. I get 80 of my LUK from AP 6 of my LUK from my gear.

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MagicTsukai 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

umm guys, how come we lose so much mana hpwashing? @_@ i just dont want these 20ap to go to waste + yea, we have lots of mp to spare i guess....

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PreludeMage + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BBD : Magic Guard > HP Washing (for mages) Walmart Logo: Save Money Live Better The only class that need HP washing under the Mage family will be Battle Mage but they are not even pass the testing phase. [/quote] Save money? These resets are free anyway. It isn't like you have to choose between one or the other. Not out of the testing phase? They are about to be released in KMS. "On July 22nd, a countermovement called Resistance will be added to the game." Credits: Spadow BBD Eventually, you will have at least a ZHelm, yes? Eventually, you will get a MoN and/or HTP, yes? Plan for the future. My base will be 70. With MW and equips, I will have 166 Luk (170 after the weapon). MagicTsukai It is due to our Max MP Increase skill

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BobbleNess 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

PreludeMage When we HP wash, it's supposed to be HP:MP ratio of 1:4 right?

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AnasF 07/20/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Do you want to Pink Bean? If yes, HP wash, if no, reset LUK. If you're worried about the Big Bang patch, LUK doesn't play as big a role as everyone makes it seem.

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