Bandit Questions, please help.

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thread starter Jwoy Jul 16 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Questions: 1) Without using Mesos Explosion, CB are hell of slow compared to others. (Y/N) Give reason(s) as well. 2) A AP build of Pure Luk>Low Str is perfect. (Y/N) Give analysing if posible. 3) Dramatically, for a STR dit, you just need 75 STR total, only if you want Dragon Khanjar so badly, otherwise, stick with Khanjar and add only 60 STR, then convert into Normal dit that use Normal Dagger(No STR Required). (Y/N) This involve funding. 4) Shadower normally not so wanted in boss run(Scar, Zak, Anego, HT etc), exception for future PB, just for the SmokeScreen. (Y/N) Since Mesos Bombing Method is sort of Old-School and rarely got people need Shadower for that purpose. 5) Bandit get the most potential from All Stats EQ, such as Zak Helm, HT pendant etc. (Y/N) Since they use STR, DEX and LUK. 6) Bandit is a 80%+/- Fun, with 20%+/- useful. (Y/N) Your opinion. 7) What level of SB outdamage 2S with 19 Mastery? 8) Is this dagger jumping good? Korea Fan > Diamond Dagger > Maple Dagger 64lv/Fan > Skewer (88 wa) > Crusayer (101 wa) > Reverse 9) In 3rd, where should I train? With non-mesos bombing method. 10) Quest Specialised is very good medal? Fyi, done 21x out of 800(26%)Quests at level 37. 11) How does Pickpocket really work? The mesos generated is based on your damage? Is the mesos generated actually is the mesos that the monster will drop? 12) Mesos guard halves damage and take mesos to replace? Example, 1000 without mg, with mg it will be 500, and 4xx or 3xx mesos will reduced. (Y/N) 13) At my Level of 51, I should(?) : STD>Ghost Ship 2/5>Mp3(Once get 18 BoT, or more)>Blue Kent>Himes>? Since my MS version dont have CWK map. 14) Is it hard to master CB? Since it is not a job of spamming-one-to-three-buttons-to-train job. 15) I noticed there is no 4th job skill build, may I have one to refer? Thanks.

xalex094 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Wrong, Band of Thieves is a great substitute. 2. At earlier*times, yes. STR has the greatest potential to surpasses all 3 AP builds in the late future. 3. Adding Str for the regular Khanjar is not worth it, it's been proven. 4. Connections, Map spawn bosses are an option with ME (IIR: Big Foot) 5. Not my spot here :S 6. Depends on how you flow~

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JustDOit 07/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. As stated, Band of Thieves is one of the best mobbing skills in the game. Slowest in the game? Shadowers are the fastest solo trainers in the game, with the exception of mages ultimate (Which is about to go away so we'll be number one ) 2. Pure Luk or "Dexless" Is much better at the beginning of the game. In the later levels, 120+ STR takes the win, because of the Dragon Khanjar. 3. Normal Khanjar sucks. Not an end game shield, might as well stay dexless if you're considering this. 4. The whole game is about connections. That's how everything in life is. If you're godly but know nobody, what use are you? 5. Kind of true, if you're low Str/Dex. Some people still stick to MoN for the great ATT bonus. 6. My bandit is 100% fun, and I haven't even hit CB yet. I will today though Plus, being dexless I hit more then most dexless sins. KS me..Whaaa?

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MageKnight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1) Without using Mesos Explosion, CB are hell of slow compared to others. (Y/N) Give reason(s) as well. No. Band of Thieves makes for easy training once you're passed the normal hell levels (low 70s). 2) A AP build of Pure Luk>Low Str is perfect. (Y/N) Give analysing if posible. Yeah, any statless build is more powerful than your average joe. Of course. What more do you want? 3) Dramatically, for a STR dit, you just need 75 STR total, only if you want Dragon Khanjar so badly, otherwise, stick with Khanjar and add only 60 STR, then convert into Normal dit that use Normal Dagger(No STR Required). (Y/N) This involve funding. No - 15 stats (the difference between 75, Dragon Khanjar's str req., and 60, Khanjar's str req.,) is worth 7 or 8 extra attack. 4) Shadower normally not so wanted in boss run(Scar, Zak, Anego, HT etc), exception for future PB, just for the SmokeScreen. (Y/N) Since Mesos Bombing Method is sort of Old-School and rarely got people need Shadower for that purpose. I can't answer that one. 5) Bandit get the most potential from All Stats EQ, such as Zak Helm, HT pendant etc. (Y/N) Since they use STR, DEX and LUK. Yes. Headsup, though, MoN beats HT pendant, egged or not. 6) Bandit is a 80%+/- Fun, with 20%+/- useful. (Y/N) Your opinion. Utility is very limited when you're in a party; NLs fill that role much better than Bandits. In general we have little to offer to parties aside from our extreme mobility and speed. I would say 90% fun, 10% useful, as they aren't really built to deal too much heavy damage either.

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Jwoy 07/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks for all, last question: If I could not afford a Dragon Khanjar(It is like 150m+ in my version), so I just go Normal build, or Pure Luk?

OmegaTobias + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jwoy : Thanks for all, last question: If I could not afford a Dragon Khanjar(It is like 150m+ in my version), so I just go Normal build, or Pure Luk? [/quote] Normal build. The higher level of luk u get the more att will be worth, so in the start statless is stronger but reverse weapons totally exterminate them in power. EDIT:Kebob is NOT the awnser because of its low attack speed, and even if it did have normal attack speed reverse would still outmatch it due to the att difrence.

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SinghNinja 07/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1) nah shads are actually the fastest training classes in 4th job expet for mages 2) pure luk pwns str dits and reg dits till about 120+ 3) if u cant afford a dragon khanjar dont bother with str dits 4) eh shads arnt the best bossers but u can get in if u have friends 5) yes only if ur a str dit 6)bandits are 100% fun and require more skill than any other class in maple

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xalex094 07/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SinghNinja : 6)bandits are 100% fun and require more skill than any other class in maple [/quote] That's the biggest bull I heard so far from a bandit.

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Jakexcore 07/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xalex094 : That's the biggest bull I heard so far from a bandit. [/quote] idk, i would say thats true to some degree. the skills given to a CB allow for a more diverse attacking zone vs most other jobs until 4th job, and using them effectively requires a little bit of learning.

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scorp989 07/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xalex094 : That's the biggest bull I heard so far from a bandit. [/quote] LOL I saw that to... It's people like that who give classes bad names.

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xalex094 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jakexcore : idk, i would say thats true to some degree. the skills given to a CB allow for a more diverse attacking zone vs most other jobs until 4th job, and using them effectively requires a little bit of learning. [/quote] Too a degree, but in reality no class in maple takes any skill. Other then ones that you have practically keep an on (Berserk's Hp boundaries, Battleship's own HP count, etc.). Every class needs to learn though? It wouldn't make sense for a Dragon knight too use Fury with a spear . :S

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vinnnyy 07/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FAST training from about 80+ Not so good at bossing Fun nevertheless~

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OmegaTobias 07/17/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The "skill and fun" thing is just something ppl keep saying over and over again. Its true we dont spam 1 attack while having to move BUT not everyone considers that fun. And we're not the top of the ppl that need skill to play those atm are buccs... well they are according to basil.(I didnt play one yet) :P

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BreakYourHeart + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xalex094 : That's the biggest bull I heard so far from a bandit. [/quote] Ehh...personal opinion for him, I suppose...

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Satoshi1234 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] OmegaTobias : The "skill and fun" thing is just something ppl keep saying over and over again. Its true we dont spam 1 attack while having to move BUT not everyone considers that fun. And we're not the top of the ppl that need skill to play those atm are buccs... well they are according to basil.(I didnt play one yet) :P [/quote] Buccs are more about timing than skill. The classes that require skill are sins (if you're not sniping and want to avoid damage at all costs) and Dual Blades (which also require skill if you want to take down large mobs while avoiding damage at all costs). Maybe mages too (if you also want to avoid damage at all costs). XD

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