Elemental Wands and Staffs : The future cost

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thread starter katz993 Jul 12 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So, I have no idea about some things that may come into play... but with the Big Bang on it's way here in likely several months, what do you project to be the changing prices on all elemental staffs and wands. Here's how I'm thinking about it - Currently most people rich enough to afford that are training normally are using their 'main' element as their staff (F/P 1/5; I/L 3/7) However, in the future, is it possible 1/3/5/7 could decrease in value dramatically while 2/4/6/8 increase ? My reasoning is the nerfing/buffing of skills. Focusing on fourth job, meteor and blizzard are going to find a dramatic change in their usefulness, and instead Chain Lightning and Paralyze will be favored, these being the secondary elements and becoming more used, will their ele staffs and wands rise in their usefulness and value. Also, not necessarily applying to fourth job, with the new poison mist damage actually being based on your attack, will elemental wand and staff 2 become more sought in the third job for better poisoning? Or will all ele staffs just decrease in value when many ditch their mages? I can live with the big bang, if Korea can do it, I can too, but all I'm asking is what may happen to our prices, and, again, I'm not really following KMS and I don't know how their economy in this subject has changed. Thank you!

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Kalemora 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm pretty sure KMS doesn't have Elemental Weapons. We'll just have to wait and see, but the "secondary" weapons will most likely be higher in price when compared to "primary" weapons after the patch.

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mechadax 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

the lukless wands will deflate when that comes because they nerfed it so mages require luk for their accuracy.

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Etrieys + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Staffs will increase in price, wands will decrease. Lower levels will favour the ice / fire wands / staffs, where higher levels will favour poison / lightning. Above That's not why the wands would drop. It's because LUKless become weaker than REG LUK.

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SephirothMX 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sounds logic to me I give thx cause i have a ele staff 4 xD

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AngelxHoly 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For I/L's, I assume Elemental wand 3 and staff 3 will remain at the same cost, seeing as Ice Strike is the main 3rd job attacking skill. Wand and staff 7 will decrease in cost, seeing as blizzard wont be used for main training anymore. I predict that Elemental wands 4 and 8, as well as staff 8 will sky rocket, due to Chain lightning becoming one of the main training skills (along with big bang, which is unelemental and therefore unaffected).

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katz993 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I currently have my very valuable ele staff 1 and less valuable ele staff 2. I've been thinking about it a lot. Personally, seeing as how the likely outcome will be, I want to get an ele staff/wand 6 before the patch.

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Etrieys 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AngelxHoly : For I/L's, I assume Elemental wand 3 and staff 3 will remain at the same cost, seeing as Ice Strike is the main 3rd job attacking skill. Wand and staff 7 will decrease in cost, seeing as blizzard wont be used for main training anymore. I predict that Elemental wands 4 and 8, as well as staff 8 will sky rocket, due to Chain lightning becoming one of the main training skills (along with big bang, which is unelemental and therefore unaffected). [/quote] 4 and 8 will increase because of Chain Lightning's immense bossing power, too. XD

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AngelxHoly 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Etrieys : 4 and 8 will increase because of Chain Lightning's immense bossing power, too. XD [/quote] That too. xD By the way Etrieys, are you continuing your I/L after the revamp?

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Etrieys 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AngelxHoly : That too. xD By the way Etrieys, are you continuing your I/L after the revamp? [/quote] Dunno yet. Still leaning towards quitting before.

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Gridmonkey + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

^Fff. Don't know if want. Why? Estaves 5, 6 and 8 will shoot through the roof, and Estaff 7 will trail behind them. Evans would still aim for Estaff 5 as an end-game weapon. Estaves 1-4 will increase in price based on the difficulty of getting from level 103-130, but price increase would be capped due to the existence of the level 130 Ewands. Ewands 5, 6 and 8 are still viable end-game weapons thanks to the potential system, their high base Matk in comprison to everything that isn't the level 163 Estaves and their abundance in comparison to high-end staves, meaning theres less at stake when you use potential/enhancement scrolls on them that would destroy the weapon at a 100% rate if they fail. If they do fall in price it wouldn't be by much, they're still the best weapon for Archmages from 130-163. I dunno what would happen to Ewands 1-4, i haven't dealt with such low levels for a while lol >.>

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cooliee125 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

thats why i bought estaff 4 for 5k nx.

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Etrieys 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gridmonkey : ^Fff. Don't know if want. Why? [/quote] I dunno. I guess it's just too large of a change for me to take in stride - For all my work, my accomplishments, my gear, my skills, how HARD I had to work to get where I sat... All changed. My gear would need complete rebuilding. Build reworked. My skills, reassigned. How LONG and HARD I worked to be able to be a competent anego-er, BF-er, bosser in general... Handed to the rest of the populace as if some kind of government payout. Everything I'd worked towards, my 100% OHKO goals, my magic goals... Changed. There's just too much. I'm old fashioned, I'll admit. I don't really like change. I'd be fine if this was a new char, a chance to try out I/L as a bosser, not a mobber, a DPM-er, not a trainer. But this is my baby, my unranked, previously High-LUK nubby nub I/L. I don't want him to change. I like him just how he is. I like that his ice wand is stronger than his lightning. I like that he's got low-ish MP. I like that I had to work my ASS off in the MTS to reset that $#@$ LUK (108->14). The big bang is just... A removal of all my goals. Sure they're replaced by new ones... But what's the point? How far down the track until they change it again? I have .. a lot to gain by quitting. Not much to gain by staying.

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Kalemora 07/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Etrieys : I dunno. I guess it's just too large of a change for me to take in stride - For all my work, my accomplishments, my gear, my skills, how HARD I had to work to get where I sat... All changed. My gear would need complete rebuilding. Build reworked. My skills, reassigned. How LONG and HARD I worked to be able to be a competent anego-er, BF-er, bosser in general... Handed to the rest of the populace as if some kind of government payout. Everything I'd worked towards, my 100% OHKO goals, my magic goals... Changed. There's just too much. I'm old fashioned, I'll admit. I don't really like change. I'd be fine if this was a new char, a chance to try out I/L as a bosser, not a mobber, a DPM-er, not a trainer. But this is my baby, my unranked, previously High-LUK nubby nub I/L. I don't want him to change. I like him just how he is. I like that his ice wand is stronger than his lightning. I like that he's got low-ish MP. I like that I had to work my ASS off in the MTS to reset that $#@$ LUK (108->14). The big bang is just... A removal of all my goals. Sure they're replaced by new ones... But what's the point? How far down the track until they change it again? I have .. a lot to gain by quitting. Not much to gain by staying. [/quote] I know I've said this a lot, but if you do quit, you'll be missed by a lot of people. Myself included. :C

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Abysseon + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Prices are likely not going to be affected for at least another 7+ months before the revamp reaches GMS and that is even faster than usual by GMS standards. Why? KMS had their 7th anniversary this year while GMS is at their 5th anniversary ... =/ Ultimate training is still by far the most effective means for archmages and thus the current major ele wands (5,7) will see a small deflation but maintain a high demand/price. Also, dual blades will be another factor for potential deflation for those trying to acquire funding. Expensive mage items such as Gen 30, Elemental Wand 5, and Elemental Wand 7 will not be facing a major deflation anytime soon. Elemental Wand 8 is likely to stay the same price or even deflate with dual blades in the next few months.

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