Why the nerfing of ultimates is bad.

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thread starter strongdude Jul 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok, since they announced the cooldown on the ultimates, I've seen mages crying and everybody else jumping for joy. Here's a quick breakdown of what the cooldown does to us "weapon attack" classes. Good: 1) No more leech. 2) LESS ksing. (Not saying mages are the only people who ks, but some of them are major culprits...) Bad: 1) Loss of ultimates -> worse training for those who train with mages 2) Lack of bishops for bossing runs. 3) Loss of valuable training partners -> Nobody is going to create mages any more. 4) They either quit or create weapon attack classes, raising the prices of scrolls/weapons/armor for US . As you can see, the cons outweigh the pros. I say, keep the ultimates without cooldowns, but if you really want to stop the unjustly ksing and leech of mages, make it so that they are weaker, or hit 10 monsters instead of 15, or reduce their range. Any solution is better. Thanks for reading, please leave your opinion about it .

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bumberu 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

IMO "no more leech" is kinda bad, i havent leeched yet but saying bye to leech... is bad :/ And mages are not only ultimates, the boosted a lot their other skills, so ppl will still make mages, less, but they will make...

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strongdude 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] bumberu : IMO "no more leech" is kinda bad, i havent leeched yet but saying bye to leech... is bad :/ And mages are not only ultimates, the boosted a lot their other skills, so ppl will still make mages, less, but they will make... [/quote] Yes, that is true, of boosting a whole lot of other skills. However, they didn't put them nearly close to par with the other classes. They're still much weaker (supposedly - I can't really know), so there will be very few mages.

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VietDreamer 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Eh, with he new curve training now will be as fast as leeching formerly. So it's an even trade, I don't mind caling off leeching, even though I used to be a mad leecher myself. Now that 50% exp is cut down, I'm totally fine with that!

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Darkmist02 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

At the speed you'll be leveling... would you even really need a partner to train with?

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NoobSlayer 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

But aren't they making the monsters stronger or something?

Distance 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Will everyone stop QQing over a freaking revamp that isn't even here yet? Jeez.

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kio2009 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I actually like the cool down mostly because it makes mages more balanced. When I see a mage, they're usually spamming their ultimate and just killing everything in their range. With the cool down, they're going to have to rely on their different skillsto help kill the monster. This way, mages can't be some godly killing machine.

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ToriLikesYou 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

UGH. They are making the power of their other skills go up. They arn't losing their ultimates they're making them so you can't use them as often. It means that mages will actually have to move to train. Mages need to stop being brats.

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coalman4444 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Stop whining noobs Yes LEECH is gone big whoop Go level on your own

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ksl210 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Like one thread is going to stop nexon from putting a cool down on them. I agree with above, SR is getting getting like a 50% damage increase, and all the other other skills that mages SHOULD be using but won't, will be upped too.

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GinSaan 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Good: Getting our other skills buffed up to match other classes Bad: Not gonna be lving that fast. (?) Thats how I see it

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Gridmonkey + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sorry, only good comes out of giving Ultimates cooldowns. Maybe then 4th job adventurer mages can finally shake off the stigma that they are nothing more than leech/KS tools that aren't worthy of boss runs or any respect for that matter (Bishops need to stop undermining their own role in such runs).

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lozo65816 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

IMO: Now having experience with my own Bucc, another class for mad leeching BF/Anego; this new CD won't do much to stop leeching. It'll probably just redirect the locations and jobs doing the leech. As you can see I have a Mage[Level is NOT updated] and a Bucc, as i stated before, the EXP gained from a good Lvl15x+ Bucc with some nice buffs such as HS or 2x is WAYYY beyond better then that of Mages in the same time frame of about a 10~15min kill for BF. The only bad part about the BF/Anego is the respawn times unlike regular mobs.

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XbrutaIityX 07/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mage opinion? Yeah the cooldown kinda sucks but I'd really rather be able to get into a boss run or something. Really I don't mind telecasting around and every 30 or so seconds destroying the entire map. Still pretty good way to train.

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