Path To Dark Knight (The Ultimate Guide Part 1)
thread starter Applesnacks Jun 29 2010
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| Working on thread. Its TOO long for basil. D: Link to Part 2 of Guide http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1573392/0/Path_To_Dark_Knight_The_Ultimate_Guide_Part_2.html# Link to Part 3 of Guide http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1573400/0/Path_To_Dark_Knight_The_Ultimate_Guide_Part_3.html# Posted on 6/27/10 The Path Of The Dark Knight ♠ This Guide was written by VictimB of Windia ♠ Notice This Guide Belongs To The Community, If You Have A Suggestion To A Section Or A Correction On Something, Just PM Me. Dedications I would like to dedicate this to all past friends, past dragon knights and to all soon to be future Spearmans, Dragon Knights and Dark Knights. Shout Outs Shout outs to David (BeheId/SirDumb), Adam (Pinkachew), Jerry (xWaIangAwax), Chris (xWakerx), Eugene (SwerveStar), Clich�(Guild) and iTripNFall37. Introduction The path to becoming a Dark Knight is long with hardships but MANY rewards. This guide will be a way to help those who choose this path but needs help. From skill builds to training maps, I hope that this guide can help you with your many questions. I also try my best to add info that ACTUALLY helps the player. In many guides for not only Dks but every class, I see many skill builds and training spot recommendations that are just utterly USELESS or OUTDATED . So this guide will try its best to help. Table Of Contents Abbreviations Ability Points Distribution Pros And Cons Beginner�s Basics Warrior Basics 1st Job Skill Build Training Spots (Level 10-30) 2nd Job Advancement Spearman Techniques Pole Arm, Spear or Hybrid 2nd Job Skill Build Training Spots (Level 30-70) 3rd Job Advancement Answers for the 3rd Job Advancement Questions Dragon Knight�s Path 3rd Job Skill Build Training Spots (Level 70-120) 4th Job Advancement Dark Knight Of Darkness 4th Job Skill Build Training Spots (Level 120-200 Where and How to Obtain Your Skill Books Mounts Types of Potions to Use How to Boss Effectively Inspirational Videos Accuracy Calculator FAQ Tips from other DrKs Abbreviations Here is a list of Spearman related abbreviations that you will hear in this thread and through your time in maple. Lv- Level AP- Ability Point SP- Skill Point Acc- Accuracy Def- Defense MDef- Magic Defense Dk- Dragon Knight Drk- Dark Knight SB- Slash Blast (Skill, 1st Job) PS- Power Strike (Skill, 1st Job) HB- Hyper Body (Skill, 2nd Job) FA- Final Attack (Skill, 2nd job) Roar- Dragon Roar (Skill, 3rd Job) Blood/DB- Dragon Blood (Skill, 3rd Job) Sac- Sacrifice (Skill, 3rd Job) Zerk- Berserk (Skill, 4th Job) Stance- Power Stance (Skill, 4th job) Hex- Hex of the Beholder (Skill, 4th Job) Aura- Aura of the Beholder (Skill, 4th Job) MW- Maple Warrior (Skill, 4th Job) Ability Points Distribution NOTE There is no real stat building for warriors. It is impossible to know the exact stat build for a warrior so much of these stat builds are general ideas and estimates. There is commonly 3 types of stat builds. • Normal Dex Normal Dex warriors have the HIGHEST base Dex. Ranging from ar |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
iSpiffster
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| I win Again! Great guide. Everybody... you better read this. :D Oh, and lol@it being too long for basil (: |
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daniel3b 06/29/10
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| Half of this stuff you specifically copied from my guide. |
My Characters: daniel3b - 109 Bera Dragon Knight
Applesnacks 06/29/10
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| [quote] daniel3b : Half of this stuff you specifically copied from my guide. [/quote] Which one? |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
daniel3b
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| The Complete Hybrid DK Guide. T_T And you said the pure spear build is worth using? |
My Characters: daniel3b - 109 Bera Dragon Knight
Applesnacks 06/29/10
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| [quote] daniel3b : The Complete Hybrid DK Guide. T_T [/quote] I based my thread of the Spearman Guide and Warrior Training Spots |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
k0olz 06/29/10
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| Nice guide and S/T/F/U daniel3b just because it is better then your guide it does not mean you have to say they stole the information from you noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob. |
djp2313
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| [quote] daniel3b : Half of this stuff you specifically copied from my guide. [/quote] There are a lot of standards in this game, it may not be intentional copying but rather a lack of content to make for unique guides. Of course if something is copied word for word then I apologize and take back what I said. Overall the guide has a lot of superfluous info. I suppose that does work for the truly lazy but trimming it down a bit would make for an easier read for others, keeping people's attention is a key factor to making a guide worth looking at. I'm also not particularly fond of the reasons behind the builds you set forth. They lacked, well, reasoning. It was more like I am adding this because it's better, you aren't getting this because it sucks. An explanation as to why something is lacking in usefulness goes a long way. There is a difference between laying down a cookie cutter build and informing people about their skills so they can see why this build is actually the best for them. Remember that yours is not the only guide and if you want people to take your information seriously there needs to be reasoning behind it. For 4th job I really dislike having a zerk build first. It is slower, it really is not a viable option. After that the rest of the 4th job is primarily figure it out for yourself but if you don't want to here's this one build I made that I'm gonna vary slightly. Once again a description of the skills, where they are used, why they are needed would go a long way. If you're gonna propose builds have some reasoning behind them, there was none. With as much as 4ht job skills builds vary there are right moves for people to make based on their situation, giving them info on what moves to make based on what situation they are in is helpful to people. As much as we like to believe people can make these decisions on their own the multitude of threads in this section proves this is not the case. The bossing section was a nice addition. Unfortunately I felt it was very brief and just rushed in general. Perhaps you were getting to the end of the guide and just wanted to get it over with kind of thing. I'd look into revising it as I think it can be a great asset to your guide. I'll leave more notes after my 2nd read through. Overall it is a presentation of a lot info you could get from various places put into one place. There is no real analysis of this info at all, it is a nice reference but not a guide imo. One last thing. It does not matter how up to date a guide actually is people will call it outdated as a way to justify asking a question that can be answered from looking at a sticky. daniel3b keeps his guide very up-to-date from what I've seen so that little jab at the beginning of this reference is a little uncalled for. Edit: [quote] Applesnacks : Level 99-107: + 3 Dragon Roar Level 101: + 1 Dragon Roar, + 2 Spear Fury Level 102-110: +3 Spear Fury [/quote] Knew something didn't look right when you didn't have ER listed as a maxed skil |
My Characters: darknightr - 178 Bera Dark Knight
danju777 06/29/10
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| good guide, but im not gonna waste time saying what was good about it. typ0s / mistakes 1. pure builds are given consideration, and almost sugested 2. it says pure PAs are rare cause there hard in 3rd job.. prob typ0 such small nit picky things they dont really matter, but djb hit on the main points |
My Characters: neutwarrior - 151 Khaini Dark Knight
Applesnacks 06/29/10
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| [quote] djp2313 : There are a lot of standards in this game, it may not be intentional copying but rather a lack of content to make for unique guides. Of course if something is copied word for word then I apologize and take back what I said. Overall the guide has a lot of superfluous info. I suppose that does work for the truly lazy but trimming it down a bit would make for an easier read for others, keeping people's attention is a key factor to making a guide worth looking at. I'm also not particularly fond of the reasons behind the builds you set forth. They lacked, well, reasoning. It was more like I am adding this because it's better, you aren't getting this because it sucks. An explanation as to why something is lacking in usefulness goes a long way. There is a difference between laying down a cookie cutter build and informing people about their skills so they can see why this build is actually the best for them. Remember that yours is not the only guide and if you want people to take your information seriously there needs to be reasoning behind it. For 4th job I really dislike having a zerk build first. It is slower, it really is not a viable option. After that the rest of the 4th job is primarily figure it out for yourself but if you don't want to here's this one build I made that I'm gonna vary slightly. Once again a description of the skills, where they are used, why they are needed would go a long way. If you're gonna propose builds have some reasoning behind them, there was none. With as much as 4ht job skills builds vary there are right moves for people to make based on their situation, giving them info on what moves to make based on what situation they are in is helpful to people. As much as we like to believe people can make these decisions on their own the multitude of threads in this section proves this is not the case. The bossing section was a nice addition. Unfortunately I felt it was very brief and just rushed in general. Perhaps you were getting to the end of the guide and just wanted to get it over with kind of thing. I'd look into revising it as I think it can be a great asset to your guide. I'll leave more notes after my 2nd read through. Overall it is a presentation of a lot info you could get from various places put into one place. There is no real analysis of this info at all, it is a nice reference but not a guide imo. One last thing. It does not matter how up to date a guide actually is people will call it outdated as a way to justify asking a question that can be answered from looking at a sticky. daniel3b keeps his guide very up-to-date from what I've seen so that little jab at the beginning of this reference is a little uncalled for. Edit: Knew something didn't look right when you didn't have ER listed as a maxed skill in your hybrid build finals but had it in the actual listed builds. Honest mistake but needs to be cleaned up. It is in all of your 3rd job builds. The main flaw I'm finding after looking through it |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
Nightlord124 06/29/10
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| As stated before, to me this is just a giant compilation of lots of information taken from elsewhere, and put into one giant helluva "guide". To me, its simply too basic, not in depth or informative to be an actual guide; simply a compilation as stated above. It is also simply too opinionated, try to add some facts, although David covered most of the things I said already. |
My Characters: LiiChopper - 138 Bera Dark Knight
Applesnacks
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| [quote] Nightlord124 : As stated before, to me this is just a giant compilation of lots of information taken from elsewhere, and put into one giant helluva "guide". To me, its simply too basic, not in depth or informative to be an actual guide; simply a compilation as stated above. It is also simply too opinionated, try to add some facts, although David covered most of the things I said already. [/quote] A combination of guides is not a guide? What? Apparently when more than 1 guide is put together, it loses the ability of being a guide Facts? There is no facts in maple. If one person think training at this place is fast, another will think it sucks. If once person thinks that it should be done this way, another will think it should be done this way. If you think its a bad guide, you make one. Im 99.99% sure you cant make a good one. |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
Nightlord124
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| [quote] Applesnacks : A combination of guides is not a guide? What? Facts? There is no facts in maple. If one person think training at this place is fast, another will think it sucks. [/quote] Alright, not facts, but be more in-depth instead of simply saying, "This is better then this so do that." And it is a compliation of data, FROM guides, a guide is a way to show someone WHY they should be doing something, which is something this data lacks. |
My Characters: LiiChopper - 138 Bera Dark Knight
Applesnacks 06/29/10
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| [quote] Nightlord124 : Alright, not facts, but be more in-depth instead of simply saying, "This is better then this so do that." And it is a compliation of data, FROM guides, a guide is a way to show someone WHY they should be doing something, which is something this data lacks. [/quote] A guide is giving someone an idea on what they should do. Thus "GUIDING THEM". A guide helps guide other not informs an every since detail on stuff that will not affect them that much. |
My Characters: VictimB - 155 Windia Dark Knight
Nightlord124 06/29/10
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| [quote] Applesnacks : A guide is giving someone an idea on what they should do. Thus "GUIDING THEM". A guide helps guide other not informs an every since detail on stuff that will not affect them that much. [/quote] In the commonly used analogy, you are giving the kid a fish. What I am telling you to do is to teach him HOW to fish. In the end, who comes out better, the kid who was given the fish and cannot get any more, or the kid who can potentially get unlimited amounts of fish? Remember, I'm just trying to help you out here, not attack your guide. All in all, it was a good effort, no need to be hostile towards me. |
My Characters: LiiChopper - 138 Bera Dark Knight
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