To All Mages Out There

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thread starter Dr4g0nX Jun 25 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Many of you, but I am not saying all, are complaining about this new balance. There are several things that are causing the problems about this issue. 1. You believe that you can no longer train 2. You believe that you can not gain money, since leech will be nullified 3. You think that your class is now obsolete Have you ever considered that you are getting a very large upgrade to all of your other skills? It is not the end of the world. You will still be able to train, but at the same rate as everyone else. Your class will still have a purpose, all classes do. So there is no need to quit your mage just because of this balance. Also, there is not a 100% chance that the balance is coming to gms. They are still testing everything, and things could change. Do not worry about the future, just enjoy the present as much as you can. I know not all of you will read this, but I am thankful to the ones that will.

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MorbidMagus 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] OblivionSoul : I don't see reason to be upset over such changes. For one, the update hasn't even come to us yet. Two, wouldn't the increased damage for other skills compensate for the lack of ultimates and make mages more viable for bossing? I don't have an arch mage, but I think the changes kind of, balance each other out. :o [/quote] Did you even read any post in this thread? Even with the updates Archmages are inferior to nearly every class in nearly every aspect.

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iTodtouch 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] PwndCakes : http://gameloading.blogspot.com/2006/12/balance.html read this The point of this article will kind of explain why that revamp patch is needed [/quote] Good job discouraging the mages. xD EVANS FTW!

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darklime 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] XcoldshadowX : Are you still thankful to me even though I think you're a total idiot? The ultimate cool down isn't the problem; the only reason people perceive it to be the problem is because morons like you keep making threads about it. The real problem is the new magic accuracy formula. If the new formula comes to GMS, then it is a fact that lukless mages won't be able to train and that lukless mages will become obsolete. [/quote] They will probably give everyone an AP/SP reset. They have to. On Topic: I Agree with the poster 100%

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snowmeese 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i thought it was kindof inspiring

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Legendary777 06/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Edatron : you know, if im not mistaken i read on spadow's blog that all mages and bishops get a cooldown on their ultimates BUT when its maxed at lv 30. why not just buy an sp reset and keep the ultimate at 29? oh and stop with the flaming. [/quote] No, the cooldown only shortens every level. At max level, it's 30 seconds. At like level 20, it's 40.

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dudeinbroa + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Intransigence : You're a f/p mage. You just mist the entire map. Ice lightning mages, we're like abandoned puppies. We try to train, but people come and ks us. Priest is a living hell. They don't have any mobing skills, other than heal, which does not affect most monsters. Have you tried training a priest at gallos? No, I don't think you'd even go there. [/quote] I'm sorry all I can say is it sucks for u that you live in a crowded world, but if you were not KS'd, the difference between the exp rates for f/ps aat skele and il/priest at gallos is not too much. you seem to be forgetting that priests have SR, and gallos are weak to holy, which gives priests and advantage. most priests tend to max SR first rather than HS now a days because gallos training is much faster I see priests partying at gallos all the time (and yes they do attack) but like I said I'm sorry you live in a world that tends to KS u. excluding buffs like MG, medi, MW, etc. and teleport, all a/ms and bishops just spam their ultimate from 120-200 at skele. lol even in zak we sit there spamming our ultimate, but if it is nerfed we will have to actually use other skills like FD, paralyze, CL, AR, to train which might actually be fun, but slower. I can't say much about the magic formula, though. we'll just see what happens when it finally comes to GMS.

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Desmater 06/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] dudeinbroa : I'm sorry all I can say is it sucks for u that you live in a crowded world, but if you were not KS'd, the difference between the exp rates for f/ps aat skele and il/priest at gallos is not too much. you seem to be forgetting that priests have SR, and gallos are weak to holy, which gives priests and advantage. most priests tend to max SR first rather than HS now a days because gallos training is much faster I see priests partying at gallos all the time (and yes they do attack) but like I said I'm sorry you live in a world that tends to KS u. excluding buffs like MG, medi, MW, etc. and teleport, all a/ms and bishops just spam their ultimate from 120-200 at skele. lol even in zak we sit there spamming our ultimate, but if it is nerfed we will have to actually use other skills like FD, paralyze, CL, AR, to train which might actually be fun, but slower. I can't say much about the magic formula, though. we'll just see what happens when it finally comes to GMS. [/quote] Even though priests attack, Shining ray is so slow and weak... We get like no experience cuz we either get ksed or the attacker in the party kills them...

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megabob10 06/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Desmater : Even though priests attack, Shining ray is so slow and weak... We get like no experience cuz we either get ksed or the attacker in the party kills them... [/quote] Because they're not gonna buff your other skills in any way right?

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Desmater 06/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] megabob10 : Because they're not gonna buff your other skills in any way right? [/quote] Shining ray still has horrible range is still slow, Big Bang you have to charge, the only "good" attacking skill bishops have got a 30 second cooldown, the new accuracy formula might make LUKless mages horrible, we're still stuck as a "supporting" class. They buffed up all the other classes too. The only thing they did was make us worse at training and still mediocre at bossing, that's "balanced?"

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CxSolstice + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well, Archmages can already kill Bigfoot in 20-45 minutes and papulatus in less than 30 minutes with maxed skills. Actually with the new damage formula, the 1v1 skills If I am correct, will basically be nukes and deal massive damage in one cast. To make Archmages more useful in parties is the ability for our other spells such as spell booster to be used as a party skill not as an individual, then archmages will be more wanted because we raise the parties casting speed =D. Even though we do have ultimates, it will pretty much 1hit ko everything with the new formula, and training with summon, paralyze and chain lightning isn't that bad at all because there are alternatives to training than just spammng ultimates such as training at ToT, not to mention the experience reduction for each level and raise in experience for monsters makes it easier to level.

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subsamuel123 06/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I think mages, EspeciaIy bishops, deserve whats coming for them. They are finally doing the right thing by adding a cooldown to ultamintes. Also, for all the mages tht are complaining....SHUT UP! No more spam killing of a whole map with a touch of a button.

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megabob10 06/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Desmater : Shining ray still has horrible range is still slow, Big Bang you have to charge, the only "good" attacking skill bishops have got a 30 second cooldown, the new accuracy formula might make LUKless mages horrible, we're still stuck as a "supporting" class. They buffed up all the other classes too. The only thing they did was make us worse at training and still mediocre at bossing, that's "balanced?" [/quote] They aren't done balancing, not even close.

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