Is Strafe Really Necessary?

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thread starter poopymann May 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

okay so i have a ranger lvl 90 and he is totally awesome, with max arrow rain and i have been training at typhons for about 16 levels so far and i want to continue there possibly even to lvl 120 The thing is right now i have max arrow rain and that is really all i need for 3rd job and if i can avoid training with strafe then that means i have an extra 30 points to put whatever i want in, actually 22 because i have 8 strafe, but the point is do i have to put my points in strafe in order to be a good bowman? I also have not yet calculated how much SP i will have at the end of 3rd job so i may need to have some extra points in strafe or something But if i do in fact avoid maxing strafe then that means i could max thrust, or at least get it to 10, which means i will not ahve to worry about speed or jump, because of shoes, and if i max mortal blow then i will have a huge advantage because even tho it is used very rarely, it will sure as hell be better than swinging my bow I do want to stay at typhons until i reach 4th job but if something like newties is better than i am open to maxing strafe in order to train and whatnot So please vote and give me your advice, anything is appreciated

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donovan 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dunno what the calcs are for when Hurricane outdamages strafe, but Mob training is better which makes Strafe kind of useless, especially Typhons.

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Qualitive 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Actually, 5 hurricane > 30 strafe.

My Characters: Qualitive - 156 DemethosGMS F/P Arch Mage

Dexen + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Even if Strafe becomes slightly obsolete at 120, Hurricane does not replace it. It is a great attack, and I don't regret maxing it. If you max Strafe, like me, you will have the option to max everything except Inferno. MAX all, Inferno 1. I am planing on Leaving Thrust at 10 and getting 11 inferno. But that's just me. And BTW, at 110 you'll want to run away from Typhons before going insane... I know I can't go back there.

My Characters: Renjazu - 111 Broa Ranger

Freeinternet 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

From what I understand if you want to Pianus here and there you want to have a good amount of points into Strafe so it can consistently hit over 10k damage without being able to critical. Why is this? Them bombs man, them bombs.

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donovan 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Inferno also gets a Major buff in the Adventurer patch next month, something to consider.

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vladk 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It does pretty decent damage when maxed. Its very much worth it. And besides, if you want to boss before 120 then arrow rain isnt going to work as well as strafe would. Its just my opinion

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poopymann + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

k thanks for the advice but i do not plan on bossing at all in 3rd job, as i get SE in 4th as well as hurricane i plan to be bossing a lot in 4th job. I also would like to know if anyone else knows this, what upgrade is happening with inferno because i heard it was getting balanced but i just dont know if it is worth having points in, especially because i plan to be over lvl 135 when the balance patch comes out. Thanks So after about 5 minutes of looking up the balance patch i find out that inferno has burn dmg and more dmg, but it is still as worthless as my crap, so i wont even bother putting points in it besides the 1 point i have in it now because it is great at mobbing typhons because of no stun I plan to typhon up to about 105-110 and from then i want to try and newtie party with max strafe, high lvl puppet, and my lovely stun bird Does anyone know when ur newtie partying do rangers at the mid 10x's or 11x's usually take the bottom or the middle? THANKS! also last question is, if i have a 3 hit kill skele/newtie bishop handy at all times, should i use em for just hs and mw, or for leeching? THANKS!

My Characters: MaBigBow - 90 DemethosGMS Hunter

gaboom 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not maxing strafe is like saying dont max burst fire on outlaw, strafe is and will be ur best 1vs1 skill till u get 5 hurricane that would beat it on dpm

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darkomega 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

strafe is 100% necessary to MM, im not maxing strafe however, since lvl 1 hurricane kills faster than max strafe. i already 5-6 hit newts so i dont see the point in getting my strafe past 20 (which its currently at), instead im going to max inferno and get enough thrust to be sure i have 140 speed at all times (i have a non MB build xD) off topic: HI GABEEEEEEEEEE *waves excitedly*

My Characters: AeroBlade3 - 100 Broa Ranger

yellowc + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Freeinternet : From what I understand if you want to Pianus here and there you want to have a good amount of points into Strafe so it can consistently hit over 10k damage without being able to critical. Why is this? Them bombs man, them bombs. [/quote] Adding onto this: You can't rely on hurricane when you go bossing, especially at lower levels fighting papulatus and pianus. The bombs can instantly kill you if you do below 10k damage with 1 arrow at a bomb at pianus, so you can only rely on strafe which records all 4 arrows as one hit. At least get Strafe to level 21; that's what I did, and I maxed Inferno.

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xdnaruto 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

personally i'm not maxing strafe. im only bringing it to 10 or so and getting inferno and 10 thrust. so i dont have to worry about speed, and get a extra skill to enjoy training with. inferno also allows you to help gather bigger mobs while still getting a bit of damage on the ones you have already lured. 10 strafe is enough for me considering i dont plan to go to pianus, or use strafe for anything else really. i also have a good enough control with hurricane to shoot smaller busts accurately.

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darkomega 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hurrican doesnt quite work that way, you cant really shoot small bursts lol

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xdnaruto 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you can shoot in small amounts. it doesnt register the same as strafe of double shot but you can shoot in little amounts.

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SaderSader 05/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hurricane can shoot in small amounts too O.o Strafe has like never been useful for my char Used like 5 times at lvl 70 maybe