Do most Hunters go FA or FA-less?

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thread starter XSupaDudeX May 21 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Do most hunters/Rangers/Bowmasters go with the FA build, or FA-less build? And I do plan on getting my hunter to a bowmaster. EDIT: Would also be great if you can tell me why you went FA or FA-less

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Ronald63 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i didnt add FA heard it can ruin you =/ you will have some SP left though just add it to your first skills

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Arizeth 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FA-less for sure, FA only works with 2nd and first job skills, such as arrow bomb and double shot. Also, with Arrow Bomb it's damage gets spread out between the mobs when it activates, and the results are less than fantastic. The damage steadily decreases on a % base til the last mob only gets like.... 2% of your dmg I think. It actually makes mobbing slower, and takes valuable skill points from your other skills.

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echen2006 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FA build works great for Arrow Bomb

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XSupaDudeX 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

^above and ^^above just contradicted eachother.. :/ I think I'll probably go FA-less, since i do plan passing 3rd job

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Flametokay 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Fa less it's not going to help you

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aethynyc 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FA less, FA can ruin you. For example let's say you spam Arrow Bomb and your mob gets KB'd, and then suddenly your FA activates shooting one arrow. It's going to ruin your mobs. It's not really that great.

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Starbomba + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FA-less deosn't do either good or bad for you. if you were a crossbowman, it'd screw more, but for hunters you can choose to get it or not. i wouldn't suggest to get it tho. it was once useful when bomb's impact damage was 50%, while the "splash" damage was 160%. now that the impact damage is also 160% it doesn't seem too useful anymore to use FA, since it helped kill that first monster quicker as it got a low bomb damage. now, it can lower a bit your bomb DPM, but it doesn't waste your build as badly as all the people above just stated. @above: that doesn't happen, or hardly happens. remember bomb stuns, so you're way safer than, let's say, a crossbowman who can't stun and depends fully on IA's raw power to keep the mob at bay. 1 shoot of FA = mob running all over you, and that's not good. crossbowmen should never get FA. hunters can choose to have it or not, but even for hunters with the upgraded bomb it's still suggested not to get it. but from suggesting to definitely not getting it...

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Arizeth + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] XSupaDudeX : ^above and ^^above just contradicted eachother.. :/ [/quote] We did just contradict each other, but it's really all in the point of view. He thinks that little bit of extra damage is worth it when mobbing with Arrow bomb, and in a way he is correct. But look at it this way, FA takes something like 1-2 seconds to cast, and then your immobile while it's casting. Since Archers are a class that requires lots of mobility to train effectively, quickly, and safely, thats the equivelant of taunting a lion with a prime steak still bloody. Pretty stupid in my opinion. Edit : Nevermind, listen to Starbomba. He's farther along than I've ever been. xD

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Starbomba + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Arizeth : it's damage gets spread out between the mobs when it activates, and the results are less than fantastic. The damage steadily decreases on a % base til the last mob only gets like.... 2% of your dmg I think [/quote] bomb's damage doesn't decrease btw, lol. it's a full 160% for each of the full 6 monster mob, dealing 960% without crits factored (for more math, consult the stickies). IA is the skill which lowers it's damage, but, in exchange, it gets a higher dmg % than bomb: 180%. and it doesn't get lowered to 2%, lol. the damage to the 6th monster on IA is like 90%-110% or so. it's not so low, but it's low, but it helps spead and stabilize damage through all the mob

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Munkkisuu 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FA ruins the Arrow bomb. Thats why most hunters go FA-less.

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dariidar 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Munkkisuu : FA ruins the Arrow bomb. Thats why most hunters go FA-less. [/quote] One of the main reasons ^ and also, FA does not work with most 3rd/4th job skills. It would be wasting 30 points.

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kratos7777 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I got FA on my Ranger and my WA. People indeed say FA stinks together with Arrow Bomb but I liked it Since Arrow Bomb most of time stuns only 60% of the monsters some always where pretty near me and with FA they went BAM dead. Seriously I never complained getting FA. It does a neat damage with double shot in 2nd job and helped me out more then 1000 times while using AB. Last reason >.> What the hell should you use the points for anyway? Soul Arrow Maxed = useless since a level 7-10 gives you already the same time as booster (macro both skills and BOOOM). Power KnockBack is really a waste. I got 1 point in it and never never never used it. Hunters aren't suppose to be in melee contact with monsters anyway. Then again it's all your choice Just saying I love FA

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KaRnAgE926 05/21/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

do not get fa

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darkomega + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hitting back 2 monsters at a decent chance and hitting back 6 monsters almost 100% is much different. if you only put 1 point in PKB you dont have any idea how useful it is. and also, you dont always have a choice whether your in melee range or not, at later lvls PKB helps alot, it helps at roids, pypq, cpq, cpq2, skeles, mp3, WR, ect.

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