Are DBs rigged?

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thread starter Sickysickynar May 16 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

According to the compilation of info about them, they get a skill, which when maxed does 180% 8 times to one monster. So by level 37 they are doing 1,440% damage...that seems really unfair imo

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necrogore666 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : Mirror image =/= shadow partner, so this point doesn't matter. [/quote] i'm pretty sure mirror image is the same as shadow partner except it isnt a summon and does 10% more damage overall

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Takeback3r 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] necrogore666 : i'm pretty sure mirror image is the same as shadow partner except it isnt a summon and does 10% more damage overall [/quote] Finally someone asks. Mirror image does 60% damage from your DAMAGE RANGE, rather than 60% of what the corresponding hit did. This is observed when such a massive difference in final cut damage and mirror image is shown.

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InfiniteFusion 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : Finally someone asks. Mirror image does 60% damage from your DAMAGE RANGE, rather than 60% of what the corresponding hit did. This is observed when such a massive difference in final cut damage and mirror image is shown. [/quote] Is it also true that Final Cut doesn't double your damage, but rather adds 200%?

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powermax100 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

They end up with less HP than Bandits and also a lot less support skills,like no meso explosion. They are nothing more than a wanna be Shadower DPS machine at endgame, while shadowers can fill up both DPS/Support roles.

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johny2toes + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It doubles. You could be hitting 20k avg and use Final Cut you'll be doing 40k avg. It's not exactly perfectly double but pretty much it is. EDIT: @above I need whatever weed you're smoking because that is just amazing. Okay for one, they have MUCH higher HP then a Bandit thanks to their Blades + Mask + MoN all giving HP. At lv 200 they end up with 6000-7000 base HP without washing. A lv 200 Shadower would only have around 5000 at best. Secondly, support skills? Meso Explosion can't be considered a support skill since it's an attack. What can a Shadower provide for support skills? Haste, Meso Up, and Smokescreen that's about all. A DB gives Thorns which supports classes who don't receive too much of a benefit from SE (Drks, Heroes, Pallys, Corsairs, Shadowers) Thorns is also better for an Aran over SE as well for Evans and probably the rest of the Legends to come out. They also have haste just not as useful since it'll only raise party members jump, but since most parties have alot of NLs usually that doesn't matter. They also get Flash Bang WHICH without buccs is BETTER then Smokescreen. It works on bosses and decreases a boss's accuracy by 85, which for all thieves basically doubles your avoid rate + gives every other class a Thieves normal avoid rate. So support wise, a DB is better in some cases. Thirdly, A DB's playing style is NOTHING like a Shadower's this has been gone over numerous times over 2 months ago. Finally, fourthly a DB can out damage a NL and even a Corsair, being in one of the top 3 DPM classes makes them a pretty dominate class for bosses. Between a NL, Corsair, DB, and BM as always it all comes down to funding. Obviously a very godly funded BM can out damage a poorly funded Corsair. And continuing off from their HP. They make up for that problem with their invincibility frames. CoH gives them practically constant invincibility, this lets them HT even without HP washing they just need the control.

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BreakYourHeart 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johny2toes : Plus, this skill is also very slow which 'causes it to be useless in 99% of training situations. All Fatal Blow is a bossing skill you should never actually take it seriously in any other aspect because Triple Stab alone will out damage Fatal Blow on just a mob of 2 which is pretty sad in the case. [/quote] I do agree with this somewhat. From the videos, it does seem that Fatal Blow is somewhat slower than Savage Blow, and more unstable. That being said, it does gets skills that increases it's damage output by a lot :X

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iMeDanny 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Even though dual bladers hit alot, they probably have a huge downside, like really bad def/hp? Either its that, or their stuff are expensive.

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TrulySorry 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Kinda a different question but, dual blades won't need a shield right? I was planning on buying a maple shield so yeah. o-o

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nimo9 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] DualBlades : Dragon Bawls arent rigged. You have to collect all of them then summon Shenron. [/quote] Go back under your bridge, Troll

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valint9 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] powermax100 : They end up with less HP than Bandits and also a lot less support skills,like no meso explosion. They are nothing more than a wanna be Shadower DPS machine at endgame, while shadowers can fill up both DPS/Support roles. [/quote] Meso explosion=weak. Pathetic attempt at putting down Db's @johnny2toes Hermits get meso up.

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johny2toes 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Bahhh whatever the meso buff is CBs get... regardless it's a useless skill.

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mastasausage 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DBs are only available for a limited time, so i think its pretty fair link is proof http://spadow.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/two-more-videos-of-dual-blade-and-this-job-is-limited/

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shuichi5987 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] johny2toes : Bahhh whatever the meso buff is CBs get... regardless it's a useless skill. [/quote] Someone is very anti-shad.

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johny2toes 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not anti-shad just I find both Meso buffs from a Hermit and a CB both very useless. How often do you really train with a NL? Newts and Skele parties... and I have yet to see anyone who actually is all "MESO UP PLZ" wanting to pick up the meso drops. And CBs one is even worse just making the monsters drop like... what? 30~50 meso coins? Both skills are overall pointless.

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mastasausage 05/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@above, If there is an 2x drop event Meso up increase that to 300% the meso u would normally get which is pretty significant. Add that w/ 4x drop card and u have a godly stack Also, CBs have bombs that do 50k+ per 4k bags, thats pretty good if u ask me

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