HP washing - wuut?

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thread starter Quiky May 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Can someone explain what the hell HP washing is? I thought I knew, but now Im just utterly confused. O_o. So like.. Just explain the whole thing to me. O_o. and what's double washing? and blood washing? MP washing? O_o. Oh, and how much int equipment would you guys recommend if someone wanted to HP/MP wash w.e.. Thank you in advance :]

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preetox 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you hagu in your pasa and the put all Ap points into HP.

bubookitty 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

From what I know of it, you level with INT gear. 10 INT = 1mp. So then what you do is you buy an ap reset from CS, and "wash" the 1 extra point you get of MP from the INT gear into your HP. Giving you more HP. Theres some other method people use but thats the only one I really know, and used.

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sleepyxdude 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hp washing: Put ap points into hp Use ap reset to take point out of mp and put into main stat Double/Triple washing: Same as HP washing, but you do it twice (3 times for triple). Requires a lot of extra int to keep your mp above the limit Blood Washing: Just putting points into HP (No ap resets) MP washing: Could refer to 2 things 1) Same as HP washing, but for MP (not sure why one would do this) 2) Wearing int equips (or putting points into int) in order to gain more mp per level for hp washing

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yummricex + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

HP Washing You spend your >5 (AP from leveling) points into HP pool >Buy AP Reset(Assuming 5) >Use it and take away points from your MP pool. >Now you have 5 Points again. >Put them into your regular stats, Str/Dex/Int/Luk = Hp washed. = Higher HP cause of points put into HP pool, While stealing points from MP pool w/ AP resets to counter balance the lost of 5 AP every level. Int Gear. (for more Mana increase each level) I read this somewhere online. So, You already know you have to take points from MP to put back into your Str/Dex/Int/Luk category right? Well the thing is, there happens to be a limit on how many mp you can take away with AP Resets. (Different for all classes, from another poster below) What happen is after you spend all your 5 points into HP. Then buying your AP resets from the cash shop all jolly and stuff. Uses the AP to take away your MP, BAM! Can't take away MP.. sad face. What people do is they wear INT equips to increase their base mana. Having more INT in stats = More Mana UP when leveling up. More mana = More resets available So how many Int is recommended? Idk, I think the number was 150 , I am pretty sure I'm off. Nvm, I just tried to estimate the possible INT for a OK amount of fund person to achieve. It was around ~30 int LULZ.

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orangeking11 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] yummricex : You spend your >5 (AP from leveling) points into HP pool >Buy AP Reset(Assuming 5) >Use it and take away points from your MP pool. >Now you have 5 Points again. >Put them into your regular stats, Str/Dex/Int/Luk = Hp washed. = Higher HP cause of points put into HP pool = While stealing points from MP pool w/ AP resets to counter balance the lost of 5 AP every level. [/quote] You put your earned AP into your regular stats, you reset MP into HP. You can't reset MP/HP back into Luk/Dex/Int/Str (or else I'd just reset as much MP as I could right into Luk). xD

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InHerArms 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OMFG, GOOGLE .

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ViviOrunitia 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'd like to know how much HP you get / MP you lose per ap.

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peter123 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] orangeking11 : You put your earned AP into your regular stats, you reset MP into HP. You can't reset MP/HP back into Luk/Dex/Int/Str (or else I'd just reset as much MP as I could right into Luk). xD [/quote] u really never hp washed b4 right? this guy u quoted is 100% right cos i did it a few times already ap into hp, ap reset, take points from mp, put them back into reg stat... thats all also u cant just reset MP/HP without pulling any AP points into it first >.> thats why u cant reset all ur MP into luk @above: as a warrior u lose 4mp per ap reset(i kno this cos i have a hero), the hp gain idk right now :/

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BBD 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I believe that HP washing is soon going to be very... not 100% necessary in the future. Right now, it seems classes that do not get HP/MP increase does need HP washing to boss early. Why I am saying this is that now that Nexon is creating items that increase HP and MP by % not by +.

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orangeking11 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] peter123 : u really never hp washed b4 right? this guy u quoted is 100% right cos i did it a few times already ap into hp, ap reset, take points from mp, put them back into reg stat... thats all also u cant just reset MP/HP without pulling any AP points into it first >.> thats why u cant reset all ur MP into luk [/quote] That makes sennse. Thanks for the correction. xD I personally already have too much HP gear to really wash (already at 4.4k HP at 140). xD

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sleepyxdude 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ViviOrunitia : I'd like to know how much HP you get / MP you lose per ap. [/quote] www.south perry.net/showthread.php?t=26 remove the space

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ironpenguin 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] peter123 : u really never hp washed b4 right? this guy u quoted is 100% right cos i did it a few times already ap into hp, ap reset, take points from mp, put them back into reg stat... thats all also u cant just reset MP/HP without pulling any AP points into it first >.> thats why u cant reset all ur MP into luk @above: as a warrior u lose 4mp per ap reset(i kno this cos i have a hero), the hp gain idk right now :/ [/quote] uh...no, hp washing is resetting mp into hp, not pumping hp, if you pumped hp, you would be a hp (insert class here)

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Starbomba 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

HP washing works like this.: - add AP into HP (AP from level up, it doesn't work to remove from MP and add to HP) - buy AP reset - remove points off MP and add into main stat there's a catch tho: to wash 1 point of HP you need to remove 1 point in MP. there's a minimum MP formula, which is different for all classes. your base MP can't go lower than the value in that formula, or it won't let you remove points. that's where INT equips come into the picture. each 10 INT (total INT, so you can have 4 base+6 in equips, and even more) you have, gives you 1 more MP. Every point you remove off MP it's 10-12 MP (for bowmen, idk other classes) so yea, you can wash as long as you have enough MP above your minimum MP level double and triple washing follow the same principles of HP washing, but they have a catch: you add AP to INT. so you gotta spend double the NX resetting both MP and INT, but as you get more INT, you get more HP blood washing... doesn't exiist. the correct term is "Blood Building". it's basically half the HP washing method: just adding AP into HP, but not removing off MP into your main stat. it's catch is that it makes you a bit weaker, but as a blooding bowman, i say it's very worth it if you're a bowman. for NL's sucks more, since they formulas rely more on LUK than ours rely on DEX (and we get other skills that counter the "less of DEX", like advanced mastery and SE) idk what's MP washing tho xP the minimal equips reqired to HP wash are zhelm adn deputy at lvl 50, and the medals at lvl 70+. optional equips involve YSS, INT earrings, lvl 8 wands, INT saunas, INT capes, and HT pendant, among others

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sleepyxdude 05/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ironpenguin : uh...no, hp washing is resetting mp into hp, not pumping hp, if you pumped hp, you would be a hp (insert class here) [/quote] No, what the guy you quoted said is the correct way. You can't take points out of mp unless you first put points into hp. Also, its been proven that putting points gained from level ups into hp is more efficient than putting points from an ap reset into hp. Using an ap reset only results in a minimum hp gain (ex. an archer would only gain 16 hp per ap), level up ap into hp gives a random hp gain (archer would gain 16-20 per ap)

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