Sniping newties. o:

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thread starter dinosaaur May 11 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm a level 81 Outlaw, about to level to 82. I've maxed burst fire, and have 13 points on ice splinter and 1 on gaivota. Should I keep on maxing ice splinter, or is there another skill that's more helpful at newties? I've read a few guides and found mixed answer. My main goal is to pretty much kill them the fastest/easiest. o:

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RolyPolyJoey 05/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Some say to put points/max octo, but honestly at max level it only hits like 2k-3k on a newt

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dinosaaur + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, I've heard about maxing octo, and also Gaivota which is why I'm really confused. If I max both of those, I probably miss out on maxing flamethrower. Though I don't plan on training at Kents or Gobies very much, so it doesn't really make a difference does it?

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StassRules 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

when are you heading to newts? I;m also 81.

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dinosaaur 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Idk, I don't train my outlaw that much anymore. Buddy me, MrMalkin. I'm 84 now, though. (;

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MyNaginata 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You can go now if you like, but WRs will still be a little better exp until like 85. Since I doubt taking on 2 newties really offers an edge over a single newtie now that the newtie you'd normally snipe spawns in chains one right after another, ice splitter might not be the best choice (I never actually compared 2 newties to 1 newtie, so if anyone has done this RECENTLY it'd be nice). Octopus will help a little, gaviota helps less, and ice splitter really isn't needed for sniping. Fake shot will suffice for looting purposes.

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frei468 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you plan on just doing newts and nothing else, I'd suggest maxing ice splitter then maxing octo then 15 gav then 26 flamethrower then homing beacon. Summon octos when you kill off both newties, assuming you are doing 2. You could probably also summon a gaviota then too. Some people will say to max flamethrower instead of ice splitter because it does more damage, but I believe that since you use ice splitter a lot even in fourth job it will be a lot better maxed. Those few extra % could be the difference between 1 hitting a monster w/ cannon after that.

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wonderrice93 05/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well 2 newties definately gave me an edge over sniping 1 newtie.

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dinosaaur 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] frei468 : If you plan on just doing newts and nothing else, I'd suggest maxing ice splitter then maxing octo then 15 gav then 26 flamethrower then homing beacon. Summon octos when you kill off both newties, assuming you are doing 2. You could probably also summon a gaviota then too. Some people will say to max flamethrower instead of ice splitter because it does more damage, but I believe that since you use ice splitter a lot even in fourth job it will be a lot better maxed. Those few extra % could be the difference between 1 hitting a monster w/ cannon after that. [/quote] Would you recommend maxing gaivota instead of putting those extra 15 points in flamethrower? Or Leaving Icesplinter at 21 (30 second freeze mark) and putting those extra 9 points into gaivtoa/flamethower?

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Savtoz 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

15 is max you should have in Gaviota (spelling?) for Air Strike in 4th, and most guides say 25/26 in IS for the 6-mob which makes sense, max everything else, take points out of Flame and put into Ice or something if you want.

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puffyjiggle 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] dinosaaur : Would you recommend maxing gaivota instead of putting those extra 15 points in flamethrower? Or Leaving Icesplinter at 21 (30 second freeze mark) and putting those extra 9 points into gaivtoa/flamethower? [/quote] Like above said, you should have Ice Splitter up to 25/26...unless you never plan to train at skeles or ToT, you will benefit from gathering up to 6 mobs. It is a skill that will always accompany you unless plan to purely train on bosses. I personally never used Gaviota, even during 3rd job but if you can't decide atm, just have saved points and add accordingly to either FT or Gaviota to 25 or something.

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Obscene 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] puffyjiggle : Like above said, you should have Ice Splitter up to 25/26...unless you never plan to train at skeles or ToT, you will benefit from gathering up to 6 mobs. It is a skill that will always accompany you unless plan to purely train on bosses. I personally never used Gaviota, even during 3rd job but if you can't decide atm, just have saved points and add accordingly to either FT or Gaviota to 25 or something. [/quote] Tammy.. Gaviota is amazing in third job. It has literally no cast time, so I use it and can keep spam shooting.

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frei468 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] dinosaaur : Would you recommend maxing gaivota instead of putting those extra 15 points in flamethrower? Or Leaving Icesplinter at 21 (30 second freeze mark) and putting those extra 9 points into gaivtoa/flamethower? [/quote] I recommend exactly what I said. I have 30 gaviota because I thought flamethrower would be quite useless in 4th job because of torp. And for the past couple months, I would kill just to get those 15 extra points in gaviota reset into flamethrower. I still suggest maxing ice splitter over flamethrower. I believe the damage change is minimal if you are going to mob with the ice/flame combo and you use ice splitter by itself a lot more than just flamethrower later on.

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rca2k4 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i have to agree with frei i saw the damage on newties with flamethrower 30, ppl said it was VERY useful, but the extra damage from the brand was only 153 each time the damage appeard i mean gavitoa does 5000-6000 maxed gavitoa is wayyyy more usful than flamethrower EDIT:i didnt quite read all of it but i dont think flamethrower is usfull at all so i maxed gavi, but o well not lke im gunna find it any more usfull, anyways off 2 lunch

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Obscene 05/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] rca2k4 : i have to agree with frei . . . i dont think flamethrower is usfull at all so i maxed gavi [/quote] [quote] frei468 : I would kill just to get those 15 extra points in gaviota reset into flamethrower [/quote] Oh, now I get it.

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