Question about my AP (priest)

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thread starter hcaz2 May 03 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Okay, so I'm a regular priest and I'm level 71. My int is 300 + 36 My luk is 70 + 5 Guides say that luk should be your level plus 3. Should that be my BASE luk or with equips? Because I'm getting a zhelm and dep star by level 80 so my luk will be like +20 or whatever. So if i DON'T keep my base luk 3 above my level, and keep my equip luk 3 above my level (or around there), my luk will be like 20 below my level eventually, or less. Does this give me any sort of disadvantage? So, what do I do? Also, when should I cap my luk? Edit: Sorry should have put more info. I am not funded whatsoever. I'm about to get a zhelm, i have 42m. I said my INT is 300+36. My magic is 444. Yeah, i don't care if I'm below average. This is my only 3rd job character. So, I should stop putting into luk now? Also, what other info do you need?

My Characters: FlashMage2 - 71 Bera Priest

Demxer + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Your LUK should be Base LUK +3, if you're going for a long-run cap your LUK around 163 Base LUK maybe O.o

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gaarasama297 05/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

why do you only have 336 magic?

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ravkin 05/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Demxer : Your LUK should be Base LUK +3, if you're going for a long-run cap your LUK around 163 Base LUK maybe O.o [/quote] If you are going for Reg Luk, this would be true. However, Reg Luk is basically obsolete. Ot: Your Luk is suppose to be capped for your personal situations and choice of endgame weapon. You should be Low Luk at best. Your base Luk is suppose to be capped to accommodate for the Luk your equips give. So when they say "Luk = Level +3" then mean total Luk which includes the Luk from equips. If you were planning on DDS, your Luk should've been capped at around 38. Your Luk should accommodate for HTP, Zhelm/Scarlion/Targa Helms, and Black Belt. Otherwise, if you are missing even one of these equips, you will not be considered to be efficient and most likely to be considered to be weak as a Luk user. Provide more information and you will get a more appropriate answer.

My Characters: SageRavin - 122 Bera I/L Arch Mage

mattonoh1 05/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

u should quit and make another priest with no luk? meh jk just cap ure luk right now unless u really want even dmg or if u need luk to get this one equip ect imm lukless and i had bout 558 magic at lv 50 O.o

My Characters: HappyLifeLol - 83 DemethosGMS Priest

shmexyazn7 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

errr..you should get No more luk whatsoever. you already have too much luck. dont get any luck equips that scroll for luck. you'll end up going reverse. dont add any more luck.. btw that other person, i doubt that junk you were putting out about 558 m.atk at lvl 50... 5 ap a level - 254 m. atk at lvl 50 from just int. you would need Lol 304 m. atk from equips. and you would be using a nocturnal staff / maple llama staff..the best scrolling you're gonna get is like 110 m. atk total or so..which is basically near impossible - i mean who's going to waste what - 1 bill? scrolling those stats.. dont lie to try to make urself look good.

My Characters: aznbuddy2040 - 113 Mardia Priest

ravkin 05/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] shmexyazn7 : errr..you should get No more int whatsoever. [/quote] @_@! Ot: Provide more info for more precise answers. The amount of funding you have also helps.

My Characters: SageRavin - 122 Bera I/L Arch Mage

shmexyazn7 05/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ravkin : @_@! Ot: Provide more info for more precise answers. The amount of funding you have also helps. [/quote] LOL! MY BAD MEANT LUCK. i can totally see you sitting there at your computer f6-ing irl

My Characters: aznbuddy2040 - 113 Mardia Priest

hcaz2 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ravkin : Provide more info for more precise answers. The amount of funding you have also helps. [/quote] I'm unfunded. This is my highest level character. I have 42m. About to get a zhelm. What sort of other info? Any tips or anything? Thanks for the information/help so far

My Characters: FlashMage2 - 71 Bera Priest

ravkin 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hcaz2 : I'm unfunded. This is my highest level character. I have 42m. About to get a zhelm. What sort of other info? Any tips or anything? Thanks for the information/help so far [/quote] I recommend to restart since you have low funding. Restart anew as a Lukless. Getting to Lvl 71 is easy on a Cleric. If you only have 42mil, I suggest you to save up your Mesos instead of getting a Zhelm. If you restart anew, you won't even have to waste your Mesos on Zhelm since you can get the Marbas helm for free. If you must buy a piece of equipment, buy a pair of 4/8 or 5/0 earrings for cheap. This way you can easily resell or use on another character if needed, especially if you do decide to restart anew later on. With your funding, you will have to cap your Luk based on one of the normal Magician weapons. But of course your funding should be higher later on so your endgame choice should change. You should cap your Luk for now and stick with what you can use as a weapon. Make a final decision at lvl 130 when you should have a bit more funding and a better idea of what you want. If you are 100% sure,guaranteed, to not play on another Magician, not restart anew as a Lukless, and play this character to high levels, then buy a Zhelm since it should be very beneficial to you.

My Characters: SageRavin - 122 Bera I/L Arch Mage

shmexyazn7 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i would actually Not save mesos for a helm if he only has 42 mill, ravkin.. he's going lukless, doesnt need the luck. get a 12 int marbas hat for free get 4/8 earring 10 mill, and get PuAc with low stats, like 6/6 or something, for 25, 27 mill. at lvl 50 u can do a free quest in NLC for lvl 43 nocturnal staff. for now, at lvl 30 just grab the free paint brush at showa town, like 30k. Then buy a cheap lvl 64 wisdom staff, or get one at the anniverasry best way to spend ur mesos, with low funding. this is if you're restarting

My Characters: aznbuddy2040 - 113 Mardia Priest

ravkin 05/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] shmexyazn7 : i would actually Not save mesos for a helm if he only has 42 mill, ravkin.. he's going lukless, doesnt need the luck. get a 12 int marbas hat for free get 4/8 earring 10 mill, and get PuAc with low stats, like 6/6 or something, for 25, 27 mill. at lvl 50 u can do a free quest in NLC for lvl 43 nocturnal staff. for now, at lvl 30 just grab the free paint brush at showa town, like 30k. Then buy a cheap lvl 64 wisdom staff, or get one at the anniverasry best way to spend ur mesos, with low funding. this is if you're restarting [/quote] Thanks for supporting my points. ;P Although, the prices seem to be awfully lower than the prices I see in Bera... o_O Ot: Need to decide if you want to restart or seriously plan on being serious with the character as is.

My Characters: SageRavin - 122 Bera I/L Arch Mage

hcaz2 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ravkin : I recommend to restart since you have low funding. Restart anew as a Lukless. Getting to Lvl 71 is easy on a Cleric. If you only have 42mil, I suggest you to save up your Mesos instead of getting a Zhelm. If you restart anew, you won't even have to waste your Mesos on Zhelm since you can get the Marbas helm for free. If you must buy a piece of equipment, buy a pair of 4/8 or 5/0 earrings for cheap. This way you can easily resell or use on another character if needed, especially if you do decide to restart anew later on. With your funding, you will have to cap your Luk based on one of the normal Magician weapons. But of course your funding should be higher later on so your endgame choice should change. You should cap your Luk for now and stick with what you can use as a weapon. Make a final decision at lvl 130 when you should have a bit more funding and a better idea of what you want. If you are 100% sure,guaranteed, to not play on another Magician, not restart anew as a Lukless, and play this character to high levels, then buy a Zhelm since it should be very beneficial to you. [/quote] Okay, getting to 71 as a cleric is not easy for me. I don't play maple enough. I don't want to start again. And if i did I would not choose a cleric again. Since I'm a party cleric a lot of what I am doing will be buffs/heal/HS so when i do get up to like 100 or whatever and haven't added any more to luk then it should even out eventually right? (or at least be a bit better) I'm not that serious about it anyway, I play for fun. I started this character like 3 years ago, and no-one made lukless really.

My Characters: FlashMage2 - 71 Bera Priest

ravkin 05/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] hcaz2 : Okay, getting to 71 as a cleric is not easy for me. I don't play maple enough. I don't want to start again. And if i did I would not choose a cleric again. Since I'm a party cleric a lot of what I am doing will be buffs/heal/HS so when i do get up to like 100 or whatever and haven't added any more to luk then it should even out eventually right? (or at least be a bit better) I'm not that serious about it anyway, I play for fun. I started this character like 3 years ago, and no-one made lukless really. [/quote] It doesn't get better because you stop adding Luk. It will remain at the same disadvantage as it is now. If you keep adding Luk, the disadvantage will only increase. If you are not serious about the character, definitely do not get a Zhelm. Definitely save up your Mesos for something you are serious about and is tradeable. You also sound a little disappointed with your character. I suggest to try out another character and decide between the two.

My Characters: SageRavin - 122 Bera I/L Arch Mage

mattonoh1 05/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

err ok maybe a lil less then 558...XD anywayy OT: dont restart at all, i know tons of mages with luk, with clerics it doesnt count as much if you mess up, if u wanna keep goin, keep goin... mages with luk do fiine, just start adding int and no more luk lol. there are tons of threads that just argue about which one is better (luk or lukless) in my opinion i think that clerics are so weak that it doesnt matter if you put ure next 70 points str O.o (dont do it) jsut keep goin and stuff.... at least you can now wear all staffs instead of keeping to a single one that doesnt require luk!

My Characters: HappyLifeLol - 83 DemethosGMS Priest