Scania Top 10 Chart Night Raven's Wing?

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thread starter JzAero Apr 26 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I totally adore this sword. In my opinion it's one of the best looking swords in Maplestory. They are very rare though and you dont see people with them often. An average one starts from 40-60mil, depending on the market. If you're planning to scroll one, 100 atk+ is recommended (if you can afford it). The prices varies from 80-150mil. Well, I've been using Night Raven's Wings since i hit level 90. For over 64 levels for those who are lazy to do the maths. This shows how much i love this sword. I've owned several self scrolled Night Raven's wings. It started off with a 96/2STR one and I made this 111 atk and 10 STR. This was even before hammers were out. I had offers of 300mil on it. As Scania grows, i decided to scroll a new one. This started of with a 100 atk one. Got 3x30% working on it, 115 atk. 4th scroll blew it up = 115 4 slot u/h NRW turned into dust. I wasn't satisfied with a pile of dust, so i bought a 101 atk clean one. This turned out to be 119 atk 11STR u/h. 3 days ago, i decided to finish of this sword. 3 months after I started using it. Hella happy that it landed on 126atk and 16STR. I just wonder, how good this is compared to the rest of GMS, so I have a chart of known NRW's in scania. This is according to a few heroes I know, and ofcourse, MTS. Now the Top 5 Scanian Night Raven's wing charts: - 135 atk / xxSTR - 128 atk / xxSTR - 127 atk / xxSTR - 126 atk / xxSTR - 125 atk / xxSTR ... Anyone can fill this list? And preferable, add a screenshot to your post. I'd love to see a longer list of the top NRW's around in GMS.

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Gardor + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I know one of the heroes in the warrior damage thread has a perfect one. EDIT: Its a Pally, its a Dawn, and he's in Bello.

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runecaster 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

MTS isn't server exclusive, so you can't add any NRW's you see in the MTS.

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JzAero + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Gardor : I know one of the heroes in the warrior damage thread has a perfect one. EDIT: Its a Pally, its a Dawn, and he's in Bello. [/quote] Yeah, i know that one. It's much easier to get your hands on a Dawn Raven wing though! Speed = fast vs normal too. Feel free to post more scrolled NRWs =D @ Runcaster, so people from for example, Windia still can buy items from scania through MTS? Nevertheless, I was asking for GMS top NRW's too though. Not just scania, the server name was more to tell people about what the source of my information was :]

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NantoSeiken 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Its my goal to scroll a godly NRW. Most likely it will never happen, but its definitely something to aim towards. Idc if its called the "poor man's ST"...it requires less dex, I can equip it 10 lvls sooner, and it looks a million times better than that ugly, Bleach-rip off sword. I'm definitely considering trading in my DS for one, and I'm only 13 dex away from being able to...

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ShMaiz3R + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Paladin had a 115/118/123 ATK NRWs long time ago before the release of hammers. I somehow got my hands on that 115 and turned it into 125/17/2 after the release of hammers, the 118 one was sold afterwards to someone who scrolled it and ended up with 121 ATK. I saw that 121 ATK NRW in FM about a week ago for only 7xxm, but someone bought it and put it on MTS. The 123 ATK one was bought by XxXH3rHER0XxX or something like that, and no clue about what happened to it after that. About the other worlds, I 've not seen any except this one. Hope that helped. @Above: NRW = poor man's ST ? Just to let you know, my crappy 125/17 has the potential to outdmg people with 140+ ATK ST/14x ATK 1H+20 ATK shield.

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Cthulhusama 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@above: But a stonetooth and a NRW have the same speed (don't they?). I don't think the 30 extra dex is gonna cut your damage nearly as much as the 15+ less attack would. How exactly is it gonna outdamage a 140+atk ST?

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NantoSeiken 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ShMaiz3R : @Above: NRW = poor man's ST ? Just to let you know, my crappy 125/17 has the potential to outdmg people with 140+ ATK ST/14x ATK 1H+20 ATK shield. [/quote] Lol, I'm not calling it that. It's just what I've heard a lot of other people call it.

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ohsheet1234 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

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NeogolonzoTwo 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hey dud (TS)

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ShMaiz3R + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Cthulhusama : @above: But a stonetooth and a NRW have the same speed (don't they?). I don't think the 30 extra dex is gonna cut your damage nearly as much as the 15+ less attack would. How exactly is it gonna outdamage a 140+atk ST? [/quote] [quote] ohsheet1234 : Ya I agree, mega-exaggeration? =/ [/quote] Because the majority of ST users don't really know how to effectively take advantage of ATK equips, so it's very likely for a ST user to have a 60+ base DEX with some/all ATK equips or 20-30 base DEX with some equips scrolled for DEX like Overalls instead of Top&Bot/STR Overall, or equips like Eye/Medal/Gloves/Capes/Shoes/Belt/Pendant scrolled for something else other than ATK. To be honest, I 've yet to see a ST user with 4 base DEX and fully ATK gear. Never underestimate the 25 less DEX requirement for the NRW, it does not only give you the chance of wielding NRW with 4 base DEX + fully ATK gear, but it also saves you tons of funds wasted in DEX equips (like Rings for example) which can be spent on improving the other ATK equips, not to mention about giving extra amount of DEX in case Nexon decides to release ATK Overalls/Earrings/Face/Helmet/Ring/Etc which will surely happen in the future. Yes mathematically, a ST is better than a NRW since it can reach as high as 108 ATK when being clean unlike NRWs which stop at 101 ATK. But in reality, the weapon's ATK is not the main factor when it comes the overall damage range. Players still play the most important role after all.

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AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It really depends on the character and their funding whether the ST or the NRW is the better option. Obviously if you happen to be low/high dex the ST is probably better for you, and if you are low dex the NRW is probably better. Also, being dexless with a NRW is far easier without forfeiting any Str or Watt. I believe the Dexless ST user is the optimal 2-h option, but you need a lot of funding (as in enough for godly dex equips) to use the ST without forfeiting Str or Watt. Well... honestly you need a lot of money anyway if you want to optimize your damage.

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Cthulhusama 04/26/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ShMaiz3R : Because the majority of ST users don't really know how to effectively take advantage of ATK equips, so it's very likely for a ST user to have a 60+ base DEX with some/all ATK equips or 20-30 base DEX with some equips scrolled for DEX like Overalls instead of Top&Bot/STR Overall, or equips like Eye/Medal/Gloves/Capes/Shoes/Belt/Pendant scrolled for something else other than ATK. To be honest, I 've yet to see a ST user with 4 base DEX and fully ATK gear. Never underestimate the 25 less DEX requirement for the NRW, it does not only give you the chance of wielding NRW with 4 base DEX + fully ATK gear, but it also saves you tons of funds wasted in DEX equips (like Rings for example) which can be spent on improving the other ATK equips, not to mention about giving extra amount of DEX in case Nexon decides to release ATK Overalls/Earrings/Face/Helmet/Ring/Etc which will surely happen in the future. Yes mathematically, a ST is better than a NRW since it can reach as high as 108 ATK when being clean unlike NRWs which stop at 101 ATK. But in reality, the weapon's ATK is not the main factor when it comes the overall damage range. Players still play the most important role after all. [/quote] I still don't really see your point. I mean 25 Dex is never gonna be as important as the 20+ Atk you were talking about so your entire point seems to be that you think the majority of ST users don't make use of Attk equips good enough which is random bias as far as I know and even besides that your point is still odd. I mean if the player is most of the power , which you said and I agree with, then a good player with a 140+ ST would still own you because of that extra +20 ATK. I mean if you want to argue that you can outdamage a 13x Atk ST user since you don't need so many dex equips you might be able to argue that one better but the +20 Atk diff you were talking about is huge. So at the least you were definately exaggerating.

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[quote] ShMaiz3R : Paladin had a 115/118/123 ATK NRWs long time ago before the release of hammers. I somehow got my hands on that 115 and turned it into 125/17/2 after the release of hammers, the 118 one was sold afterwards to someone who scrolled it and ended up with 121 ATK. I saw that 121 ATK NRW in FM about a week ago for only 7xxm, but someone bought it and put it on MTS. The 123 ATK one was bought by XxXH3rHER0XxX or something like that, and no clue about what happened to it after that. About the other worlds, I 've not seen any except this one. Hope that helped. @Above: NRW = poor man's ST ? Just to let you know, my crappy 125/17 has the potential to outdmg people with 140+ ATK ST/14x ATK 1H+20 ATK shield. [/quote] How does your crappy 125 outdmg a 14x att ST or even come close to a 14x 1h+20 att shield? The dex difference between ST and NRW isnt a large factor, people can get 120 dex just in equips easily

EarUrPie 04/27/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ShMaiz3R : Because the majority of ST users don't really know how to effectively take advantage of ATK equips, so it's very likely for a ST user to have a 60+ base DEX with some/all ATK equips or 20-30 base DEX with some equips scrolled for DEX like Overalls instead of Top&Bot/STR Overall, or equips like Eye/Medal/Gloves/Capes/Shoes/Belt/Pendant scrolled for something else other than ATK. To be honest, I 've yet to see a ST user with 4 base DEX and fully ATK gear. Never underestimate the 25 less DEX requirement for the NRW, it does not only give you the chance of wielding NRW with 4 base DEX + fully ATK gear, but it also saves you tons of funds wasted in DEX equips (like Rings for example) which can be spent on improving the other ATK equips, not to mention about giving extra amount of DEX in case Nexon decides to release ATK Overalls/Earrings/Face/Helmet/Ring/Etc which will surely happen in the future. Yes mathematically, a ST is better than a NRW since it can reach as high as 108 ATK when being clean unlike NRWs which stop at 101 ATK. But in reality, the weapon's ATK is not the main factor when it comes the overall damage range. Players still play the most important role after all. [/quote] You said it yourself. NRW = Good, but its also the "Poor Man's ST" Just because you can outdmg someone with a 30+ att higher wep doesn't mean your wep is better, it means one of 3 things. 1)You are funded/Experienced 2)The other person isn't as funded/Experienced 3)The other person doesn't have as much money to spend on MS.

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