Questions for Pirate Damage thread users

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thread starter xIdentity Mar 07 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I thought it would be easier to ask these questions in one thread. So this'll be like a survey sorta thing, because I'm struggling with some thoughts. 1. Which format for range urls do you prefer? a) lvl | name | range b) lvl - blessing - range - name c) other (post below) 2. If you would like a new format, would you be ok with me "flushing" the ranges? note: We could still use a google cache version for the thread's ranges until we grow to a good size again, so it's not like all the ranges are gone. a) Yes b) No Reason for asking: I personally prefer the format of Thief Damage Ranges (except I wouldn't list the job), and there is an INSANE amount of ranges on the thread. I cannot go through one by one and change it, as it would probably take days to weeks... 3. Do you agree with the more strict rules I put in the thread? a) Yes, the new rules will make the thread higher quality, benefiting the users of the thread b) No, they're too strict and unnecessary Note: If you're having trouble showing everything in your screen due to the new rules, an example will be provided More questions may be asked later. Thanks for your feedback!

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Tainysi 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Does this honestly need that much thought put in? Jesus

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zxodinxz 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Which format for range urls do you prefer? think its better just to show the blessing in the SS for people to see it. Only thing i would add is kinda useless anyways, but maybe some would like to see the server they played on. 2. If you would like a new format, would you be ok with me "flushing" the ranges? so long as my latest range is the one thats up there idc about any old ranges. I have a range there from before hammers, reverse, blessing, etc. as do most of us. I think a lot of the ranges now are completely pointless to have in a comparison thread to the modern MapleStory. 3. Do you agree with the more strict rules I put in the thread? I do not agree that people should have to reveal their equipment. I think a lot of higher level more funded players would be discouraged from posting in the future if that rule stayed. The old rules were simple enough but because some people, myself included, need MW to equip their weapons everyone should be allowed to use it to keep things fair or there should be a distinction between who has and doesn't have it. We could make it a rule that only the level of MW you have personally is allowed and have people list the level of their MW or provide it in the SS if blessing of the fairy is posted beside the names and not shown in the SS.

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DrkFireBlade 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Range, lvl, blessing, name (important factors go first)

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Jaacckk 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Which format for range urls do you prefer? a) lvl | name | range b) lvl - blessing - range - name c) other (post below) 2. If you would like a new format, would you be ok with me "flushing" the ranges? note: We could still use a google cache version for the thread's ranges until we grow to a good size again, so it's not like all the ranges are gone. a) Yes b) No Reason for asking: I personally prefer the format of Thief Damage Ranges (except I wouldn't list the job), and there is an INSANE amount of ranges on the thread. I cannot go through one by one and change it, as it would probably take days to weeks... 3. Do you agree with the more strict rules I put in the thread? a) Yes, the new rules will make the thread higher quality, benefiting the users of the thread b) No, they're too strict and unnecessary Here's what I think you have, and dont need: I dont think equips should be shown. There should only be MW if people NEED it to wear equips. They should also do an aprox. deduction on their range too, like without MW I also think you dont need to be all serious about the thread. Its worked before, all you need to do is continue adding ranges. Lolz.

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xIdentity 03/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Tainysi : Does this honestly need that much thought put in? Jesus [/quote] You tend to criticize things without being constructive a lot. :/ @ Barsark #1: I don't think the world is important at all really. I'm hesitant at adding BF because the list of ranges is ridiculously huge, and going through them all is probably not going to happen. So for most of these brainstorming thoughts, I can probably say they'll be thrown out due to justified laziness. :P @ Jack #2: Why not though? A lot of the ranges are more than likely outdated (as Barsark said), and would not even be worth comparing to since times are changing :P. And like I said, there's always the google cache version, which would have all of the content. @ Jack #3: No one is going to do any guessing about their range due to MW, that's just out of the question. But I think it's not fair to allow MW only if they need it. I mean, they may only need a few points in MW to wear their equips, but have it at max anyway. Meanwhile there's a guy that just barely can wear his equips without MW, shouldn't he be allowed to use his MW too? [quote] Jack : Its worked before, all you need to do is continue adding ranges. Lolz. [/quote] If that REALLY was all there is to it, then there would have been more people willing to take up the job. Maintaining a range thread means updating and changing the rules to best fit (which get changed very often), going through every page of comments and picking out the ones that are acceptable, replying to the PMs that say why their range wasn't added, and repeatedly answering frequently asked questions (which I should probably make a section just for that).

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Unbenannt 03/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Which format for range urls do you prefer? b) lvl | blessing | range | name Honestly would I prefer b), but with the addition of MapleStory version plus world due to me being in EuropeMS and there's not as many participating in this thread from eMS or just me as far I am concerned. 2. If you would like a new format, would you be ok with me "flushing" the ranges? note: We could still use a google cache version for the thread's ranges until we grow to a good size again, so it's not like all the ranges are gone. b) No Many of those could have quit and would still be interesting to have them on the list for competition. It is merely a reference for all ranges and how 'well' you are doing. 3. Do you agree with the more strict rules I put in the thread? b) No, they're too strict and unnecessary As Barsark mentioned before, some people rather have their equipments not widely known, such as me. Is mostly because of all the random people going on and on about your equipments, approaching you in a way sometimes inappropriate or stalking-ish. Wish to avoid any awkwardness and the like from strangers knowing one's equipments. Is fairly annoying as well to have people keep asking about one's equipments or hear certain remarks about them. Either way am I fairly happy with someone going for the job and putting his effort in it. Really appreciated!

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Jaacckk 03/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xIdentity : You tend to criticize things without being constructive a lot. :/ @ Barsark #1: I don't think the world is important at all really. I'm hesitant at adding BF because the list of ranges is ridiculously huge, and going through them all is probably not going to happen. So for most of these brainstorming thoughts, I can probably say they'll be thrown out due to justified laziness. :P @ Jack #2: Why not though? A lot of the ranges are more than likely outdated (as Barsark said), and would not even be worth comparing to since times are changing :P. And like I said, there's always the google cache version, which would have all of the content. @ Jack #3: No one is going to do any guessing about their range due to MW, that's just out of the question. But I think it's not fair to allow MW only if they need it. I mean, they may only need a few points in MW to wear their equips, but have it at max anyway. Meanwhile there's a guy that just barely can wear his equips without MW, shouldn't he be allowed to use his MW too? If that REALLY was all there is to it, then there would have been more people willing to take up the job. Maintaining a range thread means updating and changing the rules to best fit (which get changed very often), going through every page of comments and picking out the ones that are acceptable, replying to the PMs that say why their range wasn't added, and repeatedly answering frequently asked questions (which I should probably make a section just for that). [/quote] Its actually quite basic math. Subtract the 5%, 10%, or 15% from your range and boom you've got your non MW'd range. I think you should do this: Group the old ranges together, and stick them up at the top. Then put all the new ranges below. Not everyone sadly enough is smart enough to use the catched pages and its very possible that people will want to compare their ranges to the older players.

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ThatPirateGuy 03/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Level, blessing, range. I know a 12x with a 4.6k range. I thought his equips were better than mine but they're actually not. He just has hella BoF.

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Takeback3r + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You seriously don't have to think about this that much. Just keep it the way it is. [quote] Jaacckk : Its actually quite basic math. Subtract the 5%, 10%, or 15% from your range and boom you've got your non MW'd range. [/quote] There are other factors to range than just str.

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Jaacckk 03/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Takeback3r : You seriously don't have to think about this that much. Just keep it the way it is. There are other factors to range than just str. [/quote] And dex and to some extent luk. I believe dex is about 1/5 of the effectiveness of str for buccs, and vice-versa. If not, could you share what you know on the subject, since I know your a math person?

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Takeback3r 03/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Jaacckk : And dex and to some extent luk. I believe dex is about 1/5 of the effectiveness of str for buccs, and vice-versa. If not, could you share what you know on the subject, [/quote] Using my stats: Str: 791 (744+47) Dex: 140 (46+94) Clean w.att: 140 (it's actually much higher than that, but whatever) Damage range: 3066 ~ 5511 With MW 30: Str: 902 (855 + 47) Dex: 146 (52 + 94) W.att: 140 Damage: 3477 ~ 6265 15% of 3066 is 459, therefore MW is not exactly +X% of your damage range. It's not bad to say MW increases your DPS by 15% though. [quote] Jaacckk : your a math person? [/quote] I lol'd.

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