Dark Knight vs. Corsair vs. Aran

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thread starter jazntheazn Feb 16 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well I have both a level 50 Gunslinger and Aran. Both have the essential funding to be well off: ZHelm, Atk WG, good weapons, etc. But, after seeing a few DK videos and winning a 99 att Green Ski in a drop game, I was thinking about making one. I'm kind of stumped and don't know which to continue forth. My Gunslinger is really fun and I have some really nice guns, but training is just horrible. Arans are cool, very strong and all, but I just got bored of it and it didn't seem to be fun. Spearmen seem versatile and seem to get a lot of moves, and I'm willing to fund him more I am just unsure if its worth it. So what do you guys think out of the 3 jobs from your perspective. In terms of: 1. Train efficiently 2. Not get too boring in the beginning 3. Well worth it in the long run 4. Efficient at bossing 5. Overall Thanks for the help Basil c:

My Characters: xGunYoAss - 44 Broa Gunslinger

duskreaper 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I have all three jobs and I personally love my DK the most, then my corsair, then my Aran. One thing you should know about though is that warriors, especially spearmen, are pretty dull in second job, and spearmen are the hardest to level of the three branches. Also that green ski wont do you much good because the best build for a spearman is hybrid, this is because polearms are more useful than spears until 4th job due to the slash stab ratio and mob intensive maps. Go to the spearman forum and read some stickies if you want to know more. Then again nothing is stopping you from making all three. Play whichever you feel like playing the most, rotate however you want. That's what I usually do. :P

My Characters: LOLuBADDK - 93 Scania Dragon Knight

DkBeserk 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1.dks train beautifully imo 2.it gets EXTREMELY boring at times, but it gets somewhat bearable. 3.when your 120+ you get invited into boss runs,and you can sell bf leech 4.140 is when your a good attacker i suppose but hb is essential to boss runs 5.great class imo but it get very boring, but its also really fun at times DR=pwn.

My Characters: DkBeserk - 112 Broa Dragon Knight

cuterpichu 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Darks just get used as hb mules make a slinger gheap guns and very cheap ammo not to mention amahuzing damage

My Characters: o0siient0o - 122 Scania Corsair

duskreaper + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lol ^^^ HB mules can do 150k damage per target with apples on up to three targets (Zak, CWKPQ)? Yeah we're soooo useless for attacking at bosses. S> HB i too poor and weak. :/ I could say something similar about corsairs and how their battle ship has horrid HP until later on, and if the boss attacks back with any decent amount of damage or attacking rate your ship will get pwned up the ass.

My Characters: LOLuBADDK - 93 Scania Dragon Knight

Moookie 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For me: 1. Train efficiently: Aran. 2. Not get too boring in the beginning: Dk, Aran and Corsair are boring for me in the beginning. 3. Well worth it in the long run: Dk. 4. Efficient at bossing: Dk and Aran. 5. Overall: Corsair. So go with Dk.

My Characters: xBerfometx - 159 Windia Night Lord

MystMew 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Gunslingers suck, we don't have crit, our training area consists of fireing at the same monster for 50+ levels. All and all we suck. I'm not saying this to keep Gun scroll prices down.

My Characters: ShipOfTheSea - 100 Bellocan Outlaw

duskreaper 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dks can train at himes for efficient and good experience for like 60 levels though

My Characters: LOLuBADDK - 93 Scania Dragon Knight

Moookie 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] duskreaper : Lol ^^^ HB mules can do 150k damage per target with apples on up to three targets (Zak, CWKPQ)? Yeah we're soooo useless for attacking at bosses. S> HB i too poor and weak. :/ I could say something similar about corsairs and how their battle ship has horrid HP until later on, and if the boss attacks back with any decent amount of damage or attacking rate your ship will get pwned up the ass. [/quote] This guy speaks the truth. Also Dk is good rushing.

My Characters: xBerfometx - 159 Windia Night Lord

jazntheazn 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So if I were to go Hybrid DK, should I follow this skill build: http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1190005/0/The_Complete_Hybrid_DK_Guide.html# And if so, does this mean I'll be using a Pole Arm until like 100+?

My Characters: xGunYoAss - 44 Broa Gunslinger

cuterpichu 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lol that's why sairs learn to mount and dismount and that 150+k isn't as fast as the dps of a sair

My Characters: o0siient0o - 122 Scania Corsair

yoyoyo510 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you want to become a 4th job class the fastest, then choose DK's because they train the quickest during 3rd job at lvl 85+. If you plan on getting to 4th job, this path is the fastest. If you plan on fighting zak or scarlion during 4th job, choose corsairs, but prepare to snipe newties forever. If you want to have fun and experience new skills and want to train cost efficiently, choose Aran's, but weapons will be slightly more expensive than the other 2 classes because of recent Aran hype.

My Characters: xlPrimelx - 133 Windia Dark Knight

duskreaper + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yes, that guide is good to follow. Its reccomended to use polearms to train until you're 13x, but you CAN use a spear if you want to. People reccomend polearms because they generally do better than spears on mobs of 4 or higher, which is many maps such as Galloperas, himes, typhons, wolf spiders, and so on. Level 30: +1 PA Mastery Level 31-36: +3 PA Mastery Level 37-38: +3 PA Booster Level 39: +3 IW Level 40-49: +3 HB Level 50: +1 PA Mastery, +2 PA Booster Level 51-54: +3 PA Booster Level 55-60: +3 Spear Mastery Level 61: +2 Spear Mastery, +1 Spear Booster Level 62-67: +3 Spear Booster Level 68: +1 Spear Booster, +2 IW Rest into IW Level 70: +1 PA Fury Level 71-79: +3 PA Fury Level 80: +2 PA Fury, +1 Element Resistance Level 81: +3 Sacrifice Level 82-90: +3 Dragon Roar Level 91: +2 Dragon Roar, +1 Spear Crusher Level 92-100: +3 Spear Crusher Level 101: +2 Spear Crusher, +1 Ele Resistance Level 102-107: +3 Ele Resistance Level 108-117: +3 Spear Fury And put your leftover points into Power Crash (only change I would make, iron will is a pretty useless skill whereas power crash can come in handy at CWKPQ) @CuterPichu: DPS charts arent everything. I'd like to see a sair put out good DPM in CWKPQ and HT/PB. Dismounting too much can lower your DPM by a LOT because it takes a few seconds to get on and off of your boat. And last time I checked sairs can't bigfoot efficiently or hit 3 targets with cannon.

My Characters: LOLuBADDK - 93 Scania Dragon Knight

cuterpichu 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Not really if you learn how to mount and dismount quickly because you can hold your key down to dismount and remount almost instantly and it's not like you have to run around in cwk because once the bosses are pinned by your heros then it's game over

My Characters: o0siient0o - 122 Scania Corsair

duskreaper 02/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Even if you hold the button it still takes time, time in which another attacker could've let off another 1 or 2 attacks. And I never said anything about running around in CWKPQ. The fact is you can't do as much damage in CWKPQ because you can't mob the bosses well. Basically you're good at Margana and maybe red nirg, then the other bosses will destroy you and your boat. On top of that heroes and DrKs have such similar DPM (Heroes are above by a small amount), funding is the main factor between which job is better. And fact of the matter is making a godly DK is much cheaper than a godly Hero.

My Characters: LOLuBADDK - 93 Scania Dragon Knight