How stronger is a lukless then lowluk?

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thread starter ando2112 Feb 13 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Alright so i've made a low luk cleric which will cap its luk at like 60 or something..... What i'm asking is how much stronger is a lukless mage? Say i make a lukless mage and get it to 130. And I have my low luk mage at 130. Both using clean Enreal Tear's. They Both have max genesis. and are attacking a holy weak monster.....lets say Slimies. How much more attack is genesis going to do for the lukless?

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TubeZ 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you go lowluk and cap your luk at 33 and have perfect equips W/ a DDS, you will outdamage a lukless If you want cheaper by 1bil+ and about 10 less MATK, go lukless

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Journey 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

If you're lukless how the hell do you expect to equip a reverse? They're both low luk if you're equipping something that requires luk.

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gtbROX 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Journey : If you're lukless how the hell do you expect to equip a reverse? They're both low luk if you're equipping something that requires luk. [/quote] You dont... Lukless for mages end up equipping different end game equips than the reverse staff/wand. Also, you dont make a low luk cleric, you make a low luk bishop. For low luk build, you start out lukless then as you near bishop stage, or whenever you want to equips that dds you start adding luk bit by bit and try to piece together your equips.

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Foxtrots 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] gtbROX : You dont... Lukless for mages end up equipping different end game equips than the reverse staff/wand. Also, you dont make a low luk cleric, you make a low luk bishop. For low luk build, you start out lukless then as you near bishop stage, or whenever you want to equips that dds you start adding luk bit by bit and try to piece together your equips. [/quote] TS specifically said both using Enreal Tear, I think he was just pointing that out. lol

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gtbROX 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Foxtrots : TS specifically said both using Enreal Tear, I think he was just pointing that out. lol [/quote] Yeah, it was the closest thing I could quote. My point was, lukless mages in general (regardless of which one) won't be using reverse staff/wand.

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MechaSoul 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

for clerics, luckless is stronger until you hit 120 then you can get a horntail necklace and realistically get enough luck from equips + stats to equip a doomsday staff and then you're stronger than a luckless not by much though and it costs tons

ando2112 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] gtbROX : Yeah, it was the closest thing I could quote. My point was, lukless mages in general (regardless of which one) won't be using reverse staff/wand. [/quote] I have a build that lets a lukless user with equips such at HTP and Zhelm, etc. use Reverse Gear. No one answered by how much. Edit: And my way costs less then 1B.

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Crizit + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It all depends on your funding. And about your "Build that lets lukless use reverse gear" I think its bad, it might make you lose some magic. Because.. its gonna cost you your INT overall, which will become LUK, Your Earrings probably too.. and shield.. Earrings and Shield are like most effective equips for mages. (except for the weapon) Because they add more magic than your other equips.. (except for the weapon).. Anyways, Don't make your LUK 60. Start lukless, then add the LUK you need. Thats a little more mp and you won't need to AP reset if you got too much LUK.

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ando2112 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No one has said how much more a lukless bishop's genesis does more then the lowluk bishops genesis...

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Crizit 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] ando2112 : No one has said how much more a lukless bishop's genesis does more then the lowluk bishops genesis... [/quote] Doesn't matter if hes lowluk or lukless, Genesis won't change it's magic if you're lowluk or lukless.. It all depends on your funding

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ando2112 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Crizit : Doesn't matter if hes lowluk or lukless, Genesis won't change it's magic if you're lowluk or lukless.. It all depends on your funding [/quote] Your telling me they hit the same >_>

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xxmage875xx + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i'm a lukless bishop with level 15 gen doing 30k and 40k on monsters that are weak to holy. Most of the time i see other reg/lukless bishops doing as much as i do or somewhat higher. i regret being a lukless bishop since we got a slap in the face when they made the element wand change. My suggestion is to go low luk. Or get that amout of luk that you need to wear that certain equip. Edit: i'm sure mostly every bishop has atleast level 20 gen.

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Crizit 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

No.......... IT DEPENDS ON FUNDING GOSH

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YumAlfredo 02/13/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

At Lv130, they're going to be about the same (with the same amount of funding, blahblahblah). Once you get Maple Warrior, the difference is more evident.

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