Pure Spear vs Hybrid DK

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thread starter kostus Feb 11 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok, so im making a DK and i wanted to know some pros and cons of pure spear vs hybrid build. Thanks in Advance xD

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taleko 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This information is easily obtainable in the stickies. I refuse to spoon-feed people anymore than this.

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kostus 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I have another question: What should i cap my dex at? Im in Galacia

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taleko 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

in a new server you may have to cap at 60 possibly even 70, your base dex will be dependant on if you can obtain a zhelm or not, so it will depend on how fast you train (if Galacia has zhelm runs organised by then)

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kilik74 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hybrid spearman are terrible 1. they dont have max mastery booster or final att 2. they tend to do less dmg then a spear or polearm spearman 3 someone could mistake you for an aran how they are good 1. if someone mistakes you for an aran pull out a spear and rawr them to death 2. they have the advantage of being able to stab and slash well (unforunetly they have to switch weapons) being a spear spearman CONS youi have terrible slashing damage you dont do well till third job and you slash a lot more then stab even with mastery PROS third job helps very much for a spear spearman the stab from the spear spearman's att is high (couple k at lvl 5x) spearman have hi dmg cap your dex at 58

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DkBeserk 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

pros for hybrid you use both cons for hybrid no db ? but you can just get the nlc att pots so their really is no cons i guess,im pure spear btw. cap your dex at 4 :P

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Senyain 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1. Hybrid Spearmen have max Mastery AND Booster for both weapon types. 2. They do every bit as much damage with Fury as a PA user and every bit as much damage with Crusher as a spear user, making them the ONLY DK build to use both skills at full power. 3. Only noobs can't read your freaking class name. 4. They don't have to switch weapons within the same map, they just use different weapons at different maps. They don't even need to buy both types at the same time. Pure spear: 1. Your Fury damage is so ridiculously low it's almost unusable. 2. Your 2nd job consists of using weapons that average less damage than a 1-handed BW. 3. Since you're not getting the PA skills, you're forced to get spear FA with some of your points, which would kill your mobbing. Pros: None, actually. There is literally NO BENEFIT a pure spear build gives that the hybrid build wouldn't also give anyway.

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kamikaas 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kilik74 : hybrid spearman are terrible 1. they dont have max mastery booster or final att 2. they tend to do less dmg then a spear or polearm spearman 3 someone could mistake you for an aran how they are good 1. if someone mistakes you for an aran pull out a spear and rawr them to death 2. they have the advantage of being able to stab and slash well (unforunetly they have to switch weapons) being a spear spearman CONS youi have terrible slashing damage you dont do well till third job and you slash a lot more then stab even with mastery PROS third job helps very much for a spear spearman the stab from the spear spearman's att is high (couple k at lvl 5x) spearman have hi dmg cap your dex at 58 [/quote] hybrid spearman has max booster and mastery for spear and pole arm and final attack is crap anyway

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Darge 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pure spear: Good from 80lvl to 200lvl. Pure PA: Good from 1lvl to 120lvl. Hybrid: Good from 1lvl to 200lvl.

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HotboyJiho + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pros Pure Spear: Great damage after lvl 90, but a Hybrid has that too. Cons Pure spear: Mobbing sucks (slow training), FA sucks, It's just SUCKS! Pros Hybrid: Fast training, every lvl great damage, No FA Cons Hybrid: None...

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xJoeyyoZ 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Go hybrid....

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kostus 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok, i think i will go hybrid but i also think that i should max spear mastery and booster first. Does anyone have any comments on the fact that i dont think im gonna max PA skills first or is it a good idea?

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azntuan 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kilik74 : hybrid spearman are terrible 1. they dont have max mastery booster or final att 2. they tend to do less dmg then a spear or polearm spearman 3 someone could mistake you for an aran how they are good 1. if someone mistakes you for an aran pull out a spear and rawr them to death 2. they have the advantage of being able to stab and slash well (unforunetly they have to switch weapons) being a spear spearman CONS youi have terrible slashing damage you dont do well till third job and you slash a lot more then stab even with mastery PROS third job helps very much for a spear spearman the stab from the spear spearman's att is high (couple k at lvl 5x) spearman have hi dmg cap your dex at 58 [/quote] Your wrong they have maxed mastery and Booster but not Final Att.

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djp2313 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kostus : Ok, i think i will go hybrid but i also think that i should max spear mastery and booster first. Does anyone have any comments on the fact that i dont think im gonna max PA skills first or is it a good idea? [/quote] You should max PA skills first because in 2nd job your attacks are limited to a 3:2 ratio -- meaning you do more slashes than stabs, since PAs benefit from slashes it is better to use a PA If you are set on doing spear first you really won't miss out on much -- training will be a bit slower but you will get through --

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xrichard504x 02/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kilik74 : hybrid spearman are terrible 1. they dont have max mastery booster or final att 2. they tend to do less dmg then a spear or polearm spearman [/quote] i stopped reading right there. You dont need max booster and you definately dont need final attack. As for number 2 what are you trying to say. Go hybrid use a polearm in 2nd and 3rd job. Once you get 4th job you can train using your spear because by then its much faster than a polearm.

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