Is a +22 HTP really better for a STR Shad?

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thread starter meikusa666 Feb 06 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Is it really better than a MoN? That is assuming of course that it is +11 ATT.

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grakara 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It gives A str shad like a 51 Luk boost. 17 points from STR, 17 From Dex, 17 Extra in LUK. That's 51 in total. And if i'm correct 51 Luk is more then 11 Att. Not to sure though. But it will also be easier for you to wear a Dkhanjar and a higher lvled dagger.

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Biotype + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's actually 66 stats :P But yes, if you have the money for it, and you'll be able to use ALL of the dex and str it gives you, then buy one. If you're low on cash, the MoN is almost as good, so it's not a major difference. Plus, it lets you have higher base luk, so you'll get a larger boost from MW.

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doc 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

After I get to 120 on my Str dit, i plan on getting a HT pendant. After spending weeks doing a lot of math, i've come to the conclusion that with my fail funding, i can manage to wear the Reverse Pescas (120 str dagger) and a dkhanjar with 25 base str (75 needed for both) and 70-80 base dex (160 needed for dagger). That means i get around 130-140 extra SP i can place into LUK, giving me more wep atk then 10 from a MoN. Not to mention a dkhnajar gives 15 str CLEAN and almost all Reverse weps are godly the minute you make it and level it up. Just my words on this topic =] ~Hope it helps

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grakara 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Biotype : It's actually 66 stats :P But yes, if you have the money for it, and you'll be able to use ALL of the dex and str it gives you, then buy one. If you're low on cash, the MoN is almost as good, so it's not a major difference. Plus, it lets you have higher base luk, so you'll get a larger boost from MW. [/quote] Nope it's not a 66 stat boost then. Dont forget the MoN also gives +5 all stats, so it would be +17 for all stats if you were to switch it for a MoN. Get my point?

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KillByNature + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] grakara : Nope it's not a 66 stat boost then. Dont forget the MoN also gives +5 all stats, so it would be +17 for all stats if you were to switch it for a MoN. Get my point? [/quote] Mon is only 5 on average stats 5 each is 5 str 5 dex 5 luck= 15 stats Htp is 22 stats each on average after scrolled 22 str 22 dex 22 luck=66 stats you do know that 66-15= 51 stats still for a htp i don't know why your saying the htp is + 17 when switching out. Unless your base str and base dex are extremely high then a mon would be better. It's not a giant jump either from a htp to a mon which is around +50 in your damage range with a mon. Which is hardly noticeable. Htp is good for hp washing. Also note a htp with an apple and maple warrior range will also be higher than an 12 attack mon with apple and maple warrior range.

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Jarmar123 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] KillByNature : Mon is only 5 on average stats 5 each is 5 str 5 dex 5 luck= 15 stats Htp is 22 stats each on average after scrolled 22 str 22 dex 22 luck=66 stats you do know that 66-15= 51 stats still for a htp i don't know why your saying the htp is + 17 when switching out. Unless your base str and base dex are extremely high then a mon would be better. It's not a giant jump either from a htp to a mon which is around +50 in your damage range with a mon. Which is hardly noticeable. Htp is good for hp washing. Also note a htp with an apple and maple warrior range will also be higher than an 12 attack mon with apple and maple warrior range. [/quote] He already said it was a 51 stat boost earlier.

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justy461 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] doc : After I get to 120 on my Str dit, i plan on getting a HT pendant. After spending weeks doing a lot of math, i've come to the conclusion that with my fail funding, i can manage to wear the Reverse Pescas (120 str dagger) and a dkhanjar with 25 base str (75 needed for both) and 70-80 base dex (160 needed for dagger). That means i get around 130-140 extra SP i can place into LUK, giving me more wep atk then 10 from a MoN. Not to mention a dkhnajar gives 15 str CLEAN and almost all Reverse weps are godly the minute you make it and level it up. Just my words on this topic =] ~Hope it helps [/quote] what dex/str equips are you going to use? on topic: i've been told that 1egg pendant is a bit better than an 11 att MoN -if the other eggs come out, pendant is obviously better than MoN

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aaronthecow 02/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dear god,I though we had been over this.One is better for training the other for bossing.Slipped my mind which one though.

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KillByNature 02/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] aaronthecow : Dear god,I though we had been over this.One is better for training the other for bossing.Slipped my mind which one though. [/quote] Mon is better for training. Htp is better for bossing.

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pavchka 02/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Only if your base stats aren't too high already. I'm going to have more use for a MoN. Plus li'l point: Maple Warrior.

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MapTheSoul 02/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Don't forget the HTP gives more avoidability ^_^

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hanzo714 02/08/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

basically it depends on your build. like pavchka said, if your base is already high then the MoN wins out. then comes in the factor of having more hp or more avoidability between the MoN and HTP. however if the builds are the same the MoN wins in damage range by a little while the HTP wins in avoid.

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