1 Hurricane or max strafe with speed infusion?

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thread starter hairako Sep 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What had better dpm, max strafe with speed infusion or 1 hurricane, could you beat it with a reg speed bow or fast speed or not at all? SE is involved

Gino 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Probably SE+Strafe with a fast bow and speed infusion will win out if you're attacking monsters. The longer you plan to have hurricane shooting, the closer it'll get until it eventually passes, so bossing would be better with hurricane. Hurricane is really just strafe+2arrows per second in terms of speed, even though it looks much faster than that.

MadJester 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

isn't it closer to 2 strafes per second?

Tatufiuz 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I believe hurricane wins in max damage, but loses in average and minium damage ( duh ).

futakeye Sep 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Gino : Probably SE+Strafe with a fast bow and speed infusion will win out if you're attacking monsters. The longer you plan to have hurricane shooting, the closer it'll get until it eventually passes, so bossing would be better with hurricane. Hurricane is really just strafe+2arrows per second in terms of speed, even though it looks much faster than that. Scratch that, forgot SI. Anyway, hurricane is <3 anyway :-p.

lolsomewhat 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well hurricane will win hands down in dmg , just not minimum dmg . Speed doesn't affect hurricane :3

Firestone160 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lolsomewhat : Well hurricane will win hands down in dmg , just not minimum dmg . Speed doesn't affect hurricane :3 Were not talking about that here. It's about strafe possibly doing more dmg because of Speed Infusion added. I'm not sure how many shots per min it is when you have the fastest attack speed (fast bow+booster+SI?). Any numbers?

CtrlPlusZ 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

According to the SP attack speed reference, Strafe's delay with Faster (2) is 600ms, vs. 660ms with Faster (3). So it's 1.1x as fast. So you should be able to just multiply the average Faster (3) Strafe damage with SE (from the FAQ ) by 1.1 to get Faster (2) Strafe's average damage. It comes out to be 74393%, vs. Hurricane's average of 68,500%. Correct me if I did something wrong, but it looks like max Strafe + lv.1 SE + SI > lv.1 Hurri + lv.1 SE.

Icedfire Sep 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i dont think archer's attacks go much faster than 100apm. i doubt that the extra 49% per shot of strafe does enough to cover the extra 100 chances to crit (55 will crit with max SE, so 55x(51+240)) whatever that turns out to be. 49% x 400 = 19600 55x(51+240) + 51x45 = 16005+2295 = 18300. turns out that SE+SI+Strafe is better than level 1 hurricane by ~1300% per minute.

Abba26 Sep 08 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1 hurricane as in 1 SP in Hurricane? Why not just put more points in Hurricane and be done with it? =p

Icedfire 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

nice edit abba lol. was about to call you on that one.

vengeance251 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

What ever... not like you were gonna have a SI mule when you're a Lvl120 BM...

Carrot 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

And then you max out hurricane, and the problem is over.

TangleViper 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

vengeance251 : What ever... not like you were gonna have a SI mule when you're a Lvl120 BM... Its common to keep Hurricane at 1 till 130+. Its pretty likely he will get to train / boss with a Bucc somewhere on the way and whenever he does, he should be using Strafe. Its good to know imho.

vengeance251 09/08/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

TangleViper : Its common to keep Hurricane at 1 till 130+. Its pretty likely he will get to train / boss with a Bucc somewhere on the way and whenever he does, he should be using Strafe. Its good to know imho. I don't know what's a normal Bucc build, but I don't think they Max SI first... and even if they do, good luck finding lvl120+ buccs... barely anybody makes buccs since they're SI/TL mules only... so you won't find many buccs for training... as for bossing, not everybody is bossing at 120~130... Also you might not be in the party with the SI mule...