Reg. luk vs lukless

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thread starter jonatan Jul 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lukless VS Reg. luk This thread is showing the difference in the m.att between a lukless vs a Reg. luk magician, based on calculations . Stats The regular skill build follows this criteria luk = char lvl + 3 and rest into int. This is how I calculate the stats for the regular luk mage: str/dex = 4 luk = lvl + 3 int = (lvl * 5 + 8) - luk And this is the calculation for the lukless mage: str/dex = 4 luk = 4 int = lvl * 5 + 8 Comparing reg luk with lukless A complete comparison of a lukless vs a Reg. luk mage can be found here: Table (photobucket) diagram (photobucket) The excel file can be found here So, what is taken in consideration in my calculations? My calculations is based on m.att because it determine the dmg a mage is dealing. Therefore is the characters luk, int and weapon taken in consideration. Note that ALL my calculations are based on clean equips wich reduces the "money factor". Low luk using z-helm & HT neclace Table (photobucket)

liyanggu 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

In this case Luckless bishop > Luk bishop.

jonatan 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

liyanggu said: "In this case Luckless bishop > Luk bishop." You cant just say that the lukless bishop is better than the luk bishop by just looking at this but you can say that the m.att of a lukless bishop is higher than the Reg. luk bishop.

taotapp Jul 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, the money factor is a real monkey wrench. Anyway, these results are inspiring, just because they show that there isn't a humongous difference between the two (in terms of m.atk). If there is some glaring error here, I'm too tired to see it. e-e;

JaMbaStaR 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well if 52 stat HT Pendants becomes common, then A mage can easily go Lukless DDS user. Which is about 20 stats under an Ele Wand?

Itandehui 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

lukless are better since maple shine wands are really easy to find 100m atk 10 int overall they can use level 30 overall 15 int not really expensive 15 m atk Mon 15 from zak 2 int level 20 shoe 2 int glove normal 2 int clean mystic 10 int cape yellow or normal 5 int earring maple warrior is 10% all if u have 1000 INT u will have 100 int more ownin every high luk mage only if the mage have godly items can own u easy .

jonatan 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

JaMbaStaR said: "Well if 52 stat HT Pendants becomes common, then A mage can easily go Lukless DDS user. Which is about 20 stats under an Ele Wand?" Im not taking the ele wands into the calculationa because of the 25% dmg. reduction that the bishops now recieve. Also, ele. wands are expensive. Buuut, I think I could add that also, it will just take some time to add... Itandehui said: "lukless are better since maple shine wands are really easy to find 100m atk 10 int overall they can use level 30 overall 15 int not really expensive 15 m atk Mon 15 from zak 2 int level 20 shoe 2 int glove normal 2 int clean mystic 10 int cape yellow or normal 5 int earring maple warrior is 10% all if u have 1000 INT u will have 100 int more ownin every high luk mage only if the mage have godly items can own u easy ." I guess I could make a comparison with low luk vs lukless if anyone is interested. Sooo... should I add the low luk option in my calculation?

akasmock 07/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jonatan said: " Im not taking the ele wands into the calculationa because of the 25% dmg. reduction that the bishops now recieve. Also, ele. wands are expensive. Buuut, I think I could add that also, it will just take some time to add... I guess I could make a comparison with low luk vs lukless if anyone is interested. Sooo... should I add the low luk option in my calculation?" if you were to add a low luk option, not only are you adding a low luk option, you're also adding the funded vs no funded option since to be low luk, you have to be funded

GodRightHand 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

but if your not funded at all, which would be the best choice?

convicted 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Well your gonna have to do some diff calculations cause now luk bishops can obtain the reverse wand/staff which is quite decent

unhappymouse 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I found 1 flaw in your table. You can't use Green Paintbrush without 5 STR I think. Maybe if you have a Spiegelmann? o_O Err..anyways, I believe REG-LUK > Lukless in the long run due to no more E-Wands (for bishops). Otherwise, LUKLESS > Reg LUK on AMs.

eswarrr 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

unhappymouse said: "I found 1 flaw in your table. You can't use Green Paintbrush without 5 STR I think. Maybe if you have a Spiegelmann? o_O Err..anyways, I believe REG-LUK > Lukless in the long run due to no more E-Wands (for bishops). Otherwise, LUKLESS > Reg LUK on AMs." It's not an important requirement for a lukless bishops to get an Ele-wand. Some of my high level lukless bishop friends have a decently scrolled Wisdom/Shine and still they were able to 1H skeles. Also lukless have many advantages such as high mp, high m.def and they get very nice boost from MW. So lukless will be always the best for all three types of mages.

fictitioustruth 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

eswarrr said: " It's not an important requirement for a lukless bishops to get an Ele-wand. Some of my high level lukless bishop friends have a decently scrolled Wisdom/Shine and still they were able to 1H skeles. Also lukless have many advantages such as high mp, high m.def and they get very nice boost from MW. So lukless will be always the best for all three types of mages." The boost from mw between a lukless and low luk is insignificant really. For example, a lukless only gets 3 more int than me. Low luk is better for bishops, or lukless DDS if they get a fully scrolled HT. Since maker is out too, that gives quite a boost in int for low luk/luk mages. Lukless is mainly better for arch mages since they can wield the lukless wands.

WinglessOne 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This is very helpful...

eswarrr 07/31/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

fictitioustruth said: " The boost from mw between a lukless and low luk is insignificant really. For example, a lukless only gets 3 more int than me. Low luk is better for bishops, or lukless DDS if they get a fully scrolled HT. Since maker is out too, that gives quite a boost in int for low luk/luk mages. Lukless is mainly better for arch mages since they can wield the lukless wands." Im skeptical about you saying lukless only gets 3 more int than you.