Lukless VS. Timeless: Final Comparison
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thread starter tugboats Jul 14 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Intro A comparison of lukless vs timeless. --------------------- A. Low luk mage with maximum possible leveled up timeless equips, with maximum possible maker skill upgrades*. *Note: The chance of getting this lucky is around 1 out of 1,081,006,186. VS. B. A lukless mage with a lv130 elemental wand. Cost of my "perfect" timeless mage First, to make the timeless staff you need: 14x High Grade Monster Crystal B - 1,400 etc items from a 111-120 monster 20x High Grade Monster Crystal A - get 2,000 etc items from a lv121+ monster 3x Rock of Time - PINK BEAN ONLY DROP, who knows how much this will cost. 100 saphires - 150m* 100 wisdom crystals - 150m* *Black crystals went up to 1m each when balanced fury was released, so I am guessing it will be a bit higher for maker. So that is like 300m + 3 pink bean drops of unknown price. Just for the staff. And the other items: Shoes: 100 wisdom, 100 luk. Another 300m. Overall: 100 wisdom (150m) and a rock of time Gloves: 100 wisdom (150m) and a rock of time So we are at a total of 900m + 5 items that only drop from pink bean. (And you have to kill thousands of lv 121+ monsters, but that only wastes time, not money so I won't include it) Not even close to finished. Now you have to level up the items. The chance that you will get the stats that I have used in my example are around 1 in a billion. (900mil + 5 time stones) x 1billion = 900 quadrillion mesos + 5 billion pink bean drops. Good luck with that? Timeless Stats Timeless mage: Lv 150 • Base = 697INT, 75LUK • +22luk HT pendant, +15luk zhelm = 120luk • 8luk Blue Elemental Shoes = 128luk • 15int zhelm • 22int HT pendant • 16int/5M.atk timeless glove (6int base, +5int/5ma, +5int maker) • 18int timeless overall (8int base, +5int timeless, +5int maker) • 9int/1ma Blue Elemental Shoes (4int/3luk/1ma base, +5/5 maker) • 158m.atk/15int timeless staff (135 base + 20/10 timeless + 3/5 maker) = 956 magic total Lukless Stats Lukless mage: Lv 150 • Base = 768INT, 4LUK • 15int zhelm • 22int HT pendant • 1int yellow work glove • 4int dark starlight (can be worn with zhelm/HT) • 4int yellow snow shoes • 145m.atk elemental wand = 959 magic total Comparison with scrolling Timeless mage: 959 magic clean +14int helm (+7 70%) +4int/4m.atk glove (+4 60%) +18int overall (+9 60%) +12m.atk/6int staff (+6 60%) 10/8 cape 10/20 shield*** 12/20 earring*** ***Like they could even afford these after spending so much on timeless stuff... Slightly above average luck on scrolling, 1097 m.atk total. I had 1144 m.atk at 150. So yeah, timeless is horrible. Conclusion You want to be timeless? You will spend billions making, remaking, leveling, releveling, scrolling, etc, on your timeless stuff, while a lukless mage can just buy an elemental wand for 800m or so and beat your attack instantly. Conclusion: TIMELESS ITEMS SUCK. Edit: They suck for mages. Because people apparently don't realize this is the mage forum. -TLX
Crashinator 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Don't Timeless weapons level up?
daekbowman 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I think we have a WIN?
SlyOne 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
GunsNLove said: " Conclusion: We don`t care. " Conclusion: A lot of us do. In fact it would prevent more threads like I was just going to make.
FienDkilleRz 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
GunsNLove said: " Conclusion: We don`t care. " Conclusion: YES WE DO
tugboats 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Crashinator said: "Don't Timeless weapons level up?" I said in the intro that these weapons were leveled up to the maximum possible (5 level ups with max stat bonus). (Which is a 1 in a billion chance, so don't expect to see anyone actually make these items) Note: Timeless weapons DO NOT level up every time you level, they only level up 5 times.
SlyOne 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Lukless wins no matter what then :D Unless your equipping a level 64 Wand/Staff and want to spend billions as a Reg Luk.
exlxanga 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Crashinator said: "Don't Timeless weapons level up?" This... haha
Crashinator 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Oh yeah...didn't read that,sorry.
valint9 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Well I guess I won't need to switch.
SilverFoxR 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
SilverFoxRYeah... "Timeless weapons are so fail"... until they alter the elemental damage formula like all the other versions of MS so that attacks that don't match the elemental weapon lose damage instead of gain it. Then you'd either need to buy 1 Timeless weapon or 2 Elemental ones and switch accordingy... or just make a Timeless weapon, since they're available with the maker skill, whereas Elemental weapons (at least the higher level ones) won't.
chut 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Lukless WTF !
PreludeMage Jul 14 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
By the way, I have a zhelm and a pendant... you might want to update your YWG to the Dark Arten, which has +3 INT (and is MUCH, MUCH cheaper) Edit: And to get that 5 INT with the maker, it'll cost a few hundred million (maybe), due to probability of getting an A grade.
Freezing Jul 14 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
did you factor in how much magic att u would get from the luk? o.o edit: i know it may be small but it would still have some effect
valint9 07/14/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Freezing said: "did you factor in how much magic att u would get from the luk? o.o edit: i know it may be small but it would still have some effect" Luk only gives magic accuracy.
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