Explosion Vs. Ice Strike?

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thread starter method76 Jul 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Which do you prefer? I prefer Explosion because it has 30 more Magic Attack than ice Strike. If you say "Oh, but Ice Strike Freezes." Then expain me this. Would you jump into a mob just to freeze them continuously and still be hit by the attacks? Even if you snipe with freeze you can do that with Explosion so there'd be no point to freeze. I understand if you stand in front of them to freeze but that's hard to do seeing as Ice Strike is very weak and has almost no KB to high level monsters. Of course this is a biased thread and I don't care if you flame. Its 4:32 a.m. where I live and I just got really bored and can't sleep. Please discuss.

6plusho 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

but doesn;t explosion take forever to cast? thats the drawback to the skill

Wycher 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ice strike, its way faster than explosion, and like you said it freezes, it might not knockback but most high lvl monsters have some killer magic attack, wich is mostly better to avoid

ImKafei Jul 04 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It doesn't matter if Explosion has 30 more base attack than Ice Strike. Ice Strike's DPM rate is higher than that of Explosion's. Explosion is affected by weapon speed. The fastest recorded speed was 43 casts a minute, or 0.7167 casts per second. 120*43 = 5160 Ice Strike's casting speed is 65 times per minute, or 0.923 casts per second. 90*65 = 5850 Since when is hitting 10k with Ice strike at Level 104 weak? Please do some research before you post non-sense.

Inferno 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ImKafei said: "It doesn't matter if Explosion has 30 more base attack than Ice Strike. Ice Strike's DPM rate is higher than that of Explosion's. Explosion is affected by weapon speed. The fastest recorded speed was 43 casts a minute, or 0.7167 seconds per cast. 120*43 = 5160 Ice Strike's casting speed is 65 times per minute, or 0.923 seconds per cast. 90*65 = 5850 Since when is hitting 10k with Ice strike at Level 104 weak? Please do some research before you post non-sense." Game, set match.

germy300 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

5INFUl 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Explode is slow as hell. When I play on my friends f/p AM I take explode off a key. I can't even take how slow it is. xD

volcanocube 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Im just happy I never have cast a single Ice strike in my life xD Im used to explosion and dont think that it should be faster for any reason other then to let me level even faster =) For the way that F/P and I/L train I think (like all opposite skills these 2 classes have) they are tied.

asiannigs 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

germy300 said: " 10k, with godly equips? ;O Because I know I can't hit that at 104, if I even get there. >.< I'm hitting around 4k (estimating up) at level 90 with 3 Amplification." Well you should take into account the Amplification, you've only had experience with Magic Amplification 3. Amplification is a 30% damage boost. Note that many lukless I/l Mages who are un-funded can hit 10k by level 100. On topic: I pick Ice Strike, as previously stated it is faster. If that was not the case, then Ice Strike because Freeze does help when picking off stronger monsters. If we are talking sniping, then Ice Strike because it has less animation thus 'causing less lag, and probably will result in more casts. Ice Strike for looks, I can get explosion effects from my Big Bang attack. I don't even see what use Explosion is. o.O" a mob skill which isn't used for training often. Besides being a back-up, I can't think of too many good reasons why you'd want Explosion. I wouldn't underestimate Freeze because many Bow Masters would gladly give up their Inferno/Phoenix for Blizzard/Freezer. When they are getting mobbed, and can't use their main skills they use Arrow Rain, and Arrow Erruption. If you think about it, none of them can freeze, and it is a huge pot burn in the mob, so Freeze gives them the chance to distance themselves for a counter attack.

Inferno Jul 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

5INFUl said: "Explode is slow as hell. When I play on my friends f/p AM I take explode off a key. I can't even take how slow it is. xD" It's like 5seconds tops with booster. Lower down the exageration. To guy above me, that's 10k to ice weak right?

DragonzSage 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

IS beats Explosion at newties or skeles any day... mist is a different story.

IloveDotA 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Uhm Do they both hit as many monsters?

Dashparr77 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Icestrike is better but, i still favor f/p's overall.

volcanocube 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

asiannigs said: " Well you should take into account the Amplification, you've only had experience with Magic Amplification 3. Amplification is a 30% damage boost. Note that many lukless I/l Mages who are un-funded can hit 10k by level 100. On topic: I pick Ice Strike, as previously stated it is faster. If that was not the case, then Ice Strike because Freeze does help when picking off stronger monsters. If we are talking sniping, then Ice Strike because it has less animation thus 'causing less lag, and probably will result in more casts. Ice Strike for looks, I can get explosion effects from my Big Bang attack. I don't even see what use Explosion is. o.O" a mob skill which isn't used for training often. Besides being a back-up, I can't think of too many good reasons why you'd want Explosion. I wouldn't underestimate Freeze because many Bow Masters would gladly give up their Inferno/Phoenix for Blizzard/Freezer. When they are getting mobbed, and can't use their main skills they use Arrow Rain, and Arrow Erruption. If you think about it, none of them can freeze, and it is a huge pot burn in the mob, so Freeze gives them the chance to distance themselves for a counter attack." I need explosion just as often I use magic claw, each minute of training is about 10 magic claw and 6 explosion. The range and mob-ability are MORE then welcome for a misting F/P

Viper 07/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The only thing explosion is good for clearing out misted mobs. Other than that it just plain sucks.