Barrel or Shockwave?

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thread starter darkness3020 Jun 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So I'm planning to max drain, and get shockwave to 21. But I wondered if i should max barrel and just get shockwave to 11, since it apparently becomes useless. So should I max Barrel?

Soappy 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I suggest you max barrel, because shockwave is more than useless.

azimuth457 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Shockwave is 100% useless, although in my mind, Barrel is too. I never use it besides to use the glitches involving it. (sitting and removing ZHelm aura) When are you going to need to hide? I never did..and no, I didn't leech.

cocobenz 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I heard that once you are 150+, shockwave is actually helpful. On a skele mob, you do dragon strike, corkscrew, and shockwave and it kills them.

darkness3020 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cocobenz said: "I heard that once you are 150+, shockwave is actually helpful. On a skele mob, you do dragon strike, corkscrew, and shockwave and it kills them." ...I don't think I'm good enough to make it 150+

CallMeCy 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Useless or possibly useful? Go with ShockWave. Barrel is just for fun or GPQ if you really don't like Thieves.

TehSniper Jun 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cocobenz said: "I heard that once you are 150+, shockwave is actually helpful. On a skele mob, you do dragon strike, corkscrew, and shockwave and it kills them." How would that help you any more than dragon strike? That's not even a reason at all. And dragon strike would be better to use for the sake of 110% more damage 0.o Since you're maxing drain, 21 shockwave isn't going to do a thing for you. It doesn't even outdamage blast, so there's no point. Just add the extra points into barrel, I use it on occasion. EDIT: CallMeCy said: "Useless or possibly useful? Go with ShockWave. Barrel is just for fun or GPQ if you really don't like Thieves." 21 shockwave=useless.

gotpoker4 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

barrel. Shockwave is pointless, since you can only use it 1/4 of the time.

cwood6 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You might find that Shockwave looks rather cool and fun, I know I do, but it is a complete and utter waste of a skill. Leaving SW on 1 is a waste, i'd rather leave it at 0.

TehSniper 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

cwood6 said: "You might find that Shockwave looks rather cool and fun, I know I do, but it is a complete and utter waste of a skill. Leaving SW on 1 is a waste, i'd rather leave it at 0." Then where do all the points go? :O Even if you max dash, 2 points that won't let you advance.

cwood6 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It's just an exaggeration, I said "I'd rather" didn't I?

Ugly 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Barrel. Go to GPQ and own the thieves lol

astrokid Jun 30 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Barrel is crap. Leaves you completely vulnerable for 1 second after you cast it, and fails more times than you will find reliable. Nevertheless it still comes as a convenience at times. 10% does not count per cast but its accounted for each time you touch a monster. Use it in GPQ and you should expect to die occasionally 11 shockwave isn't much better either. Completely useless in 4th job, may have some use in 3rd job.

TehSniper 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

astrokid said: "Barrel is crap. Leaves you completely vulnerable for 1 second after you cast it, and fails more times than you will find reliable. Nevertheless it still comes as a convenience at times. 10% does count as each cast but each time you touch a monster. Use it in GPQ and you should expect to die occasionally 11 shockwave isn't much better either. Completely useless in 4th job, may have some use in 3rd job." 21 shockwave useful? Sure, if you like burning extra pots and dealing less damage than while in energy mode (which you'll be in less thanks to shockwave's slower charging speed). And I've found max barrel a lot more useful than you'd think. Takeback3r (from "Skills uselss?) said: " 1) Name where it [barrel] isn't useful. 2) CSB can easily kill you in the face of BF, not to mention that if i wanted to CC/drop something at himes, CSB wouldn't be letting me do that. I've said it a million times before. If you don't have oak barrel, you don't know how useful it is. "

CountFist 06/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I say max everything except shockwave leaving it at 1. Max dash, and Barrel. I maxed Barrel cause it's cool looking, that's all. If you max Mp recovery-Barrel-and dash that's around 29 SP, so you're good to go