DEX effects on sin

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thread starter pezai1314 Jun 21 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

what does dex do to sins? i've been hearing all kinds of rumors ,and i just want to get it straight i want to hear FACTS not just more rumors I already know dex helps sins wear equips 1) does dex affect sins's damage? 2) does dex affect sins's stability in the damage? 3) if the answer to both of these is "no", why would dexless sins even bother wearing dex equips if they're not going to become a scarab user? 4) what i've heard is that dex doesnt have any affect on lucky 7, is this true? prove it 5) if dex doesnt have any affect on lucky 7, then what does dex have affect on? Having answered all these questions with facts would be greatly appreciated, hope you guys can help me out

FitingTheif 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

1) No 2) No 3) Because the Scarab will raise their range more than what a Skanda + LUK equips can (takes a helluva Rab) Or they can't afford the LUK and take whatever they can get from the DEX (Similar to me and my 2/5 DEX PAC) 4) DEX has very little effect on L7, so little it is insignificant Proof: Read the description of L7... 5) Wearing equips and gives 0.3 more Acc (I believe per point)

badboyzon9 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dex increase ur min range. Luk primary, and Dex secondary to increase ur overall attack dmg

qwan456 Jun 21 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DEX play no role in the damage formula of Lucky 7 and Triple Throw. It does, however, affect your damage range, as well as skills such as Avenger and Drain. Other than that, a DEXless won't used DEX equips, unless s/he is planning on converting to lowDEX. Also, LUK gives ACC too. It may not be as much as DEX, but it should be enough for them to train on the monster they supposed to train on at that level. Lucky Seven Formula that includes the the monster DEF and level. Max = {[(Luck*5.0) * Weapon Attack/100] * (1-0.01*D) - MonsterWDef*.5} * Damage % Min = {[(Luck*2.5) * Weapon Attack/100] * (1-0.01*D) - MonsterWDef*.5} * Damage % where D is Monster level - Player level. If the monster's a lower level than the player, D is 0. Credits to Kevvl for that formula. If you want to see the other version the formula without it including in the W.DEF of the monster, go to the sticky thread in the Assassin/Hermit/Nightlord section.

pezai1314 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

that's there im confused, if DEX plays no role in lucky 7, and it affects my damage range, how does DEX connect with my overall dmg? are you saying that DEX affects damage range which affects lucky 7? in that case, wouldn't dex indirectly affect lucky 7?

BrickTheHun 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah, money you spend on DEX equips could be money you'd spend on LUK or atk equips.

vandaemon 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DEX does nothing to LUCKY7, LUCKY7 does not take the figures in the stat attack window. LUCKY7 only affected by LUK and W.ATK DEX does affect all attacks except LUCKY7

qwan456 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

vandaemon said: "DEX does nothing to LUCKY7, LUCKY7 does not take the figures in the stat attack window. LUCKY7 only affected by LUK and W.ATK DEX does affect all attacks except LUCKY7" Yep. Basically, what this say. It doesn't affect Triple Throw either, btw. The formula of both skills are the same. Formula of the damage range in the Stat window. [(LUK * 3.6 + STR + DEX) / 100] * W.ATT = MAX [(LUK * 3.6 * 0.9 * MASTERY + STR + DEX) / 100] * W.ATT = MIN Compare it to the Lucky 7 formula I provided above, or the one that doesn't include the monster W.DEF, here. link

xkonohamarux 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yes DEX effects your range which effects the end damage.

thebeast2119 06/21/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

your dex has no affect on L7 but it affects your range, not as much as luk though that is why in lower lvls dexless outdmg 90% of the reg dex sins, dex does nothing but enable you to equip certain things....like claws, shoes etc.

pezai1314 06/22/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

perfect responses, thanks guys