lets argue about creation vs evolution

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thread starter NerdyMapleGeek Jun 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This is my view <<<<<<<<< thats yours >>>>>>>>> as long as you respect mine I will respect yours and therefore arguing is not needed.

joyjinche 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I believe that God created us because in the bible he made us UNIQUELY, apart from every other living thing. We will never know what God's thoughts and methods were so be it creation or evolution, it doesnt matter because we are HERE.

xNaglfarx 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jahpahknees said: " im not trying to prove it any more correct just trying to prove to people who believe in evolution how ignorant they are" evolution and the creation of life are different... At least science is attempting to figure it out, which is more then i can say for "other" theories.

sutper 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jahpahknees said: "StrChiefG7 said: " I believe some basilers that have posted have grasp of the concept of how God does not exist where the other basilers just use Jesus, how life is created, how life started, how we exist, how we are alive, etc. Most of the concepts that the some basilers use to prove that God is real can be knock right back by using science." i can assure u using ur so called science it would not if u really study the science behind evolution u find out how impossible it would be for evolution to occur becuz there are many flaws behind evolution evolution makes milllions of assumptions just to come up with planets evolution only makes one i can tell u a few becuz i recently had a test on evolution vs creation evolutoin assumes that there is dark matter and mass les energy so that the universe could come to be they never saw it so does it not exist maybe it does becuz thats the same assumption that creatonist make but thats nothing compared to everything else "how can life come from a non-living thing" evolutionist believe in chemicle evolution and the steps hav many flaws they believe that amino acids created a big chain and turned into a bundle of protien then a coacervate and they belive that it then turned into a living cell but how could something so simple turn into something so complex they assumed that all the parts of a living cell somehow magiclly fitted together becuz all the parts are needed at the same time just to sustain life okay more assumptions according to the big bang all the planets are suppose to be composed of the same material as their parent star which in are case is the sun which in reality is incorrect for our solar system also that they are suppose to axis that are perpindicular to their orbit which is our case is wrong again and that the planets are suppose to be in the same plane which is wrong again also their rotation are suppose to go the same way which is wrong ok more big bang theory assume that all the matter in the universe came from an unstable energy the size of a pin did we see this energy did it cant be right if u want to argue i will give u more assumptions but i hav time for one more assumption creations assume their is a god and he created everything 1 aassumption compared to millions from evolutionist and u say creatoinist cannot be proven right prove to me that 1 in 10^40000 really occured becuz thats wat the estimate possibility of the universe sustaining life is atm i dont know how bad its going to get but u guys say we are illiterate becuz science proves evolution right u dont even know becuz wen it comes to evolution scientist break many rules including the sceintific method and the second law of thermodynamics anybody wanna argue now" Evolution has nothing to do with planets. Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. Abiogenesis isnt evolution. Theres nothing saying that chemicals cannot become primitive cells. The first cells were nothing like the cells we have today. The

StrChiefG7 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Avatar said: " What I dont get is (Im athiest or however you spell it) we have "theorys" like you said many times your self. No one knows the creation of the world because no one lived that long. Ok im not saying God is real he might be real. But we are still trying to find out. You guys that believe in God are like "Yup there is a God he did everything, he is everything, but he is not anything, and he is everywhere". What im trying to say is people with science are trying to prove it, we are only humans we are trying to find out. We don't know we only make assumptions. You say "Up he exitsts" without any proof and your only proof is "prove he doesnt exist"... Thats what i think. Have a good day I need to finish my my final projects." You are right. We have so many theories. The using of "God created everything /thread," are overuse by posters who cannot think of anything better. They are just sitting back and not using their intelligence.

jahpahknees 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

EraserBuddy said: "How about lets not and just eat smores by the campfire" lol there is the mediator

joyjinche 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Why not just say, SCREW IT CREATION AND EVOLUTION BOTH SUCK.

deadeye273 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

one thing i always get flamed for. When evolutionist say that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, how is it made and since we cant see matter why does it matter if we cant see god

UntiLxiTxBleeds Jun 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I know people who are smarter and write better than you "pro-creation," or "pro-evolution" morons making their own choice in their belief and can't prove whether or not what they're believing in is real, but they still believe in it. You idiots may believe that you can disprove or prove something, but whatever "theory" or "logical reasoning" that you can come up can and will be disprove by someone else; my two cents: if people who have lived longer and are wiser than you have can not prove or disprove faith, what make you, a child among them, think that you can?

angramainyu 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

joyjinche said: "Why not just say, SCREW IT CREATION AND EVOLUTION BOTH SUCK." Creation and evolution are both fascinating. Creationists and evolutionists, however, are pretentious, discord-loving bigots, as far as BasilMarket goes. At least, for the most part.

Avatar Jun 09 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

deadeye273 said: "one thing i always get flamed for. When evolutionist say that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, how is it made and since we cant see matter why does it matter if we cant see god" You can see matter.... also energy is different and especially since we have proof. For example gravity is there but you can't see it. "I know people who are smarter and write better than you "pro-creation," or "pro-religion" morons making their own choice in their belief and can't prove whether or not what they're believing in is real, but they still believe in it. You idiots may believe that you can disprove or prove something, but whatever "theory" or "logical reasoning" that you can come up can and will be disprove by someone else; my two cents: if people who have lived longer and are wiser than you have can not prove or disprove faith, what make you, a child among them, think that you can?" Thats not very nice, we are just having a conversation or debate. I have so much to say about your last little bit there but i don't know how to say it. Of course we are children and how will we learn? We are all different with different ideas ok, if what you say is true why didnt civilization just stop after the older and wiser people die....uggh i dont know how to say it.

wooyboy 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I find it hard to believe you can know this much about science but so little English, unless you learned all of this in another language.

jakelyrx 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This man is a troll, let this thread die.

angramainyu 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

jakelyrx said: "This man is a troll, let this thread die." Hypocrisy is ill-fitting.

jahpahknees 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sutper said: " Evolution has nothing to do with planets. Evolution has nothing to do with the big bang. Abiogenesis isnt evolution. Theres nothing saying that chemicals cannot become primitive cells. The first cells were nothing like the cells we have today. They were just membrane around the molecules. Umm, most of our solar system is hydrogen helium oxygen, carbon etc. I think thats pretty good with the sun. Planets would go in the same direction if they werent hit by other things forcing them to change direction. Thats what happened to uranus and venus. When you find a galaxy that rotates in a different direction then you can talk. The energy is all around us... Made up that probability yourself. no one has ever even tried to calculate the chances of it creating life. Evolution doesnt violate thermodynamics." it does the second law of thermodynamics in general states that simple things do not turn more complex by itself basic entropy there for example buildings will fall and not become more complex the human body slowy deteriorates so according to the big bang theoy something as simple as a pin has turned into something as complex as a universe like ours but i will give u this there is an exception to the law an outside source that can be the power source for somethingt to get more complex and i will give u that but is it possible that the outside source is a god wether u lyk it or not to not violate science your best bet is to assume their is a god so u may possibly be right that the big bang theory and god exist but scientist don't want to admit there is a god that is why they came up with the big bang theory so either way evolutionist lose

deadeye273 06/09/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Avatar said: " You can see matter.... also energy is different and especially since we have proof. For example gravity is there but you can't see it. "I know people who are smarter and write better than you "pro-creation," or "pro-religion" morons making their own choice in their belief and can't prove whether or not what they're believing in is real, but they still believe in it. You idiots may believe that you can disprove or prove something, but whatever "theory" or "logical reasoning" that you can come up can and will be disprove by someone else; my two cents: if people who have lived longer and are wiser than you have can not prove or disprove faith, what make you, a child among them, think that you can?" Thats not very nice, we are just having a conversation or debate. I have so much to say about your last little bit there but i don't know how to say it. Of course we are children and how will we learn? We are all different with different ideas ok, if what you say is true why didnt civilization just stop after the older and wiser people die....uggh i dont know how to say it." im talking about this strange matter that suddenly cause a bang