Dexless really worth it after timeless weapons?

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thread starter argon321 Jun 02 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Looking toward the new updates coming soon to GMS, I decided to check if there was any info about timeless weapons and i found this: link For those who are lazy to read, it says that timeless weapons and armors will have the exp weapon system, which upgrades the weapon everytime it levels, up to lvl 6. In the case of the claw, everytime the weapon levels it adds stats ranging from: Attack (0~2) Luck (1~2) Avoid (0~2) (Please correct me if i'm wrong) The weapon has a base attack of 54 and it cannot be traded once it's equipped it becomes untradeable. Now to the point: A reg/low dex NL who is able to wear the claw gets it and scrolls it with 60% scrolls adding 10 atk to it (that's 5 out of 7 scrolls), the scroll is now 64 atk, he levels the weapon up to lvl 6 and lets say it added a total of 6 atack making it 70 attack without godly scrolling skills or anything. Now, the NL has a 70 atk claw additional to all his other equips, against lets say a godly 55 atk skanda of a dexless sin, 15 atk difference what in my point of view, would be enough make the damage gap between dexless and low/reg dex NL's become minimal, and taking into account the costs, much more cheaper than a dexless NL. Please excuse my grammar :] Edit: Woops my fault, the weapon can lvl a total of 5 times, not 6 as i stated before, the total atk of my example weapon would be 69, not 70

maxxtro 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm pretty sure the claw itself will cost higher than a 70 atk sleeve on the first year time temple will be released.

qwan456 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

People are still making DEXless and wearing a Skanda, when they could have switch to lowDEX to wear a Sleve. =O How I see it is Timeless Claws are like a Night Raven claw for a regDEX and lowDEX. They are going to be expensive and hard to get like Night Ravens. So even getting one will be hard itself, and not mentioning finding a decently scrolled one will be even harder.

argon321 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Probably at first it will, like all other new weapons, but after some time prices will go down and i'm pretty sure it'll cost less than a 70 atk sleeve or even a 55 atk skanda

xxnolliexx 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

WEre do i get them at? D:

basket 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I dont see there is anything wrong with your grammar, however the 15atk difference is pretty much. If im correct 1atk is 5luk, than 15atk= 75luk. The extra luk u can get by making a dexless is 125, what about the "godly 55atk skanda", its good but i wouldnt say godly, a night ravens claw for lv90 is also dexless and is 40atk clean, which gives a max att of 75/7luk. Than the difference against a Timeless weapon is 5atk+, imagining that the timeless weapon can gain more atk each lvl makes it hard to find out which is better. But if 5luk=1atk it would mean to regain the 125less luk u got from a reg NL u need 125/5=25atk better Timeless weapon than the 75Night Ravens Claw. So lets say u gain each lvl 1atk on the weapon and u train full time with it, meaning 100%/lvl, ucan be as good as, or even better then a dexless at lv145. With equipement u can wear it with less dex meaning u got more luk, so ur Timeless weapon wont need that much atk as said before. But untill there are no Timeless weapons yet, i'd say go dexless.

abel1994 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

poopyyy :D

argon321 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

basket said: "I dont see there is anything wrong with your grammar, however the 15atk difference is pretty much. If im correct 1atk is 5luk, than 15atk= 75luk. The extra luk u can get by making a dexless is 125, what about the "godly 55atk skanda", its good but i wouldnt say godly, a night ravens claw for lv90 is also dexless and is 40atk clean, which gives a max att of 75/7luk. Than the difference against a Timeless weapon is 5atk+, imagining that the timeless weapon can gain more atk each lvl makes it hard to find out which is better. But if 5luk=1atk it would mean to regain the 125less luk u got from a reg NL u need 125/5=25atk better Timeless weapon than the 75Night Ravens Claw. So lets say u gain each lvl 1atk on the weapon and u train full time with it, meaning 100%/lvl, ucan be as good as, or even better then a dexless at lv145. With equipement u can wear it with less dex meaning u got more luk, so ur Timeless weapon wont need that much atk as said before. But untill there are no Timeless weapons yet, i'd say go dexless." That's very true, and i'm not saying that it'll be better than a godly dexless sin, but in my opinion it'll be cheaper than it, and it was just showing an example without godly scrolling skills because a perfect timeless claw would be 54 base + 35 scrolls + 12 from leveling = 101 atk 26 atk more than the dexless claw making it better :p

dgtkwon 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

it will not be worth it, since timeless and other lv120 wep will give much better atk than solely relying on LUK however, it is hard to forge and will take $$$$$$$$$ to make it. it's not that cheap from my experience on KMS

OB3LISK 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Mmmmm. I think it's easier to scroll or buy a Dragon Sleve with that attack. Does it say where Timeless weapons drop from?

dashx4 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I believe you have to forge them like that one SS on the link the TS provided.

ClericX 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Dexless isn't worth it even without the timeless weapons. Almost all the dexless sins convert to low dex anyway o_o... correct me if I'm wrong :o

feh 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sorry -saving spot, read later-

Qing 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

ClericX said: "Dexless isn't worth it even without the timeless weapons. Almost all the dexless sins convert to low dex anyway o_o... correct me if I'm wrong :o" You are wrong.

nooob 06/02/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

can you scroll those after lvling it to max?