why not max somersault kick?

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thread starter oliquido Apr 28 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

so i just started a gunslinger and was looking at builds and was wondering why people dont max SK? isnt its dmg output much better than invisible shots? 1140% vs 510%. Would it be be a better second job training skill than invis shot with mastery?

camparksam 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The reason is that it's attack power has something to do with STR, which makes it a lot weaker for Gunslingers than for Brawlers. At least that's what I hear.

KachiOyabun 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I back up what he said. ^^^

clericcom 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Also, its range is really small so to get 1140%, you'd have to have 6 monsters nearly touching you at the same time.

masamunee 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Plus I feel safer sniping a Windraider than going up to his face and kicking him in the nads.

Oracle 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

uhh ur usually long ranged, and who doesnt like speed? f6 (Dash)

Bountyan 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The damage is crappy with Guns, and there are not much situations you would be in the middle of a mob of 6+ as a Gunslinger. And @ above, you would cut Bullet Time for Somersault, not Dash.

houdinimage 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

masamunee said: "Plus I feel safer sniping a Windraider than going up to his face and kicking him in the nads." I laughed my butt off. SSK isn't good for second job, while it seems good it just isn't effective due to it's range/ lack of mastery.

oliquido 04/28/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

haha ic makes sense

Efemera Apr 29 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SSK and Invisible Shot do 2/3 damage and have no mastery when used with a gun. That said, I still find it more useful than Grenade. Probably should've maxed that instead of 11 Grenade.

FroznSolid 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i maxed it. Bullet Time is useless for gunslingers, the extra 9 acc (which u get at the end of 2nd job anyway) isn't worth slower lvling. btw SSK is very useful at sand rats. i burnt alot of pots, but trained like this 30-36: -use invisi to mob to one side -used SSK to kill all -repeat one hit of SSK did as much dmg as one bullet in double shot, but hit 3 times more often.

Efemera 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

FroznSolid said: "i maxed it. Bullet Time is useless for gunslingers, the extra 9 acc (which u get at the end of 2nd job anyway) isn't worth slower lvling. btw SSK is very useful at sand rats. i burnt alot of pots, but trained like this 30-36: -use invisi to mob to one side -used SSK to kill all -repeat one hit of SSK did as much dmg as one bullet in double shot, but hit 3 times more often." You don't get Bullet Time for the accuracy, you get it for the passive 9 avoid, which is a lot more useful than SSK will ever be @_@

Viaje 04/29/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I maxed it, but that doesn't change the fact that Triple Shot is much better. See, the thing is, not only does SSK rely more on STR, it also loses Weapon Attack when used by Slingers. Why? Because the 10 Weapon Attack the lowest bullets give you is only factored into damage when you fire the bullets. Trying to do Flash Fist or Somersault Kick with a gun is equivalent to punch a monster with a Claw as a Sin.

lalaland 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I maxed my SSK to train in sand rat until 30 something Dash is totally pointless in my view when gunner gets recoil and we can always buy a mount

trips486 04/30/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

OT: How do you make qoutes on this forum? I can't find the button to do so? Someone please help me out as im still pretty new here. Anyways on topic to 3eyessheep for slingers SSk is really useless. Like others said SSK relies on str which slingers doesn't have enough to use that skill effectively. Also are meant to be long range so why would you use SSK during any other jobs. It is much easier and faster to just snipe the monsters with invis shot then it is to just go up to them and burn pots and do minimal dmg to them. Reason why brawlers use it is bc str is there main stat for them plus have a variety of others skills to make combos with SSk so its better for them. Also in 2nd job they get more hp then slingers do another reason why slingers don't fight close range. Also you mention that dash is really useless for a slinger I really don't understand why its that useless. You see in order to make recoil effective you need dash so you can have better distance away from the monster. If you just use recoil you make bump into another monster or won't have enough distance to shoot them. Also you get a farther and higher recoil from dashing then recoiling over them. Dash is also useful to move around places faster so your able to reach a sniping spot or whatever with much ease. Dash is what really makes the slinger fast(unless you can afford speed equips) Trust me though dash is a vital skill for the slinger as it makes training go by so much faster.