Mob Control Debate

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thread starter bored321 Apr 15 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hi guys! Okay, so me and my friend were debating about the difference between Avenger and Band of Thieves. I told him that I believe BoT is a better mob control skill compared to Avenger; of course, he thinks opposite as I do. So we decided we'll let you guys decide! Question: What skill do you think is better mobbing control at himes during solo training? Please give details and explain. <3

futbol 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Unless someone has actually tested this, you're just going to get biased answers...

MisterCold 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

it's Bot, bot acts all around you(after the first initial hit), while Avenger only infront of you also, bot is faster and ditches out more DPS this way

Phaxen 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For sure it's BOT chief bandits are way better mobbers then NL's, and NL's are way better on single targets then CB's. >.>

plouey 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

It really depends of the scenario, but avenger is better at himes.

bored321 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

plouey said: "It really depends of the scenario, but avenger is better at himes." What do you depending on the scenario? :o

Joba 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thiefs don't even have any mob control....

6plusho2 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

BoT is better and faster (coming from a hermit) @ joba: tell me when avenger and BoT is then..

orangeking11 Apr 15 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

bored321 said: " What do you depending on the scenario? :o" Compare Himes to Typhons. Two different scenarios for sure. The Himes map is flat, and Himes move in a linear fashion and have very low KB. IMO this gives Hermits an edge because it's much easier to control the Himes with Avenger in this situation. Unlike CBs which take a lot of M. Atk damage, a Hermit can spam Avenger and pin down a small mob with ease, using very little, if any HP pots [Easy mob handling = easy Draining (Lazy Avenger method ftw)]. But you put them both at Typhons, CBs have it easier, since BoT being AoE makes it easier to gather up the big, flying monsters on a map that's not so flat. xD

Joba 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

6plusho2 said: "BoT is better and faster (coming from a hermit) @ joba: tell me when avenger and BoT is then.." Avenger and BoT are mob attacks . Rush, PKB, Corkscrew, Backspin, Dragon's Breath... Those are mob control.

plouey Apr 15 2009 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

bored321 said: " What do you depending on the scenario? :o" Yah like OrangeKing, compare WS to Himes. BOT would be better at WS than Avenger whilst Avernger would be better at Himes.

orangeking11 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Joba said: " Rush, PKB, Corkscrew, Backspin, Dragon's Breath... Those are mob control." Don't forget about NL's Ninja Storm. Kind of like Backspin (pushing and Stunning), but works in front and behind the character (ofcourse this is kept in check by its lower % success rate at lower levels). xD

Joba 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

orangeking11 said: " Don't forget about NL's Ninja Storm. Kind of like Backspin (pushing and Stunning), but works in front and behind the character (ofcourse this is kept in check by its lower % success rate at lower levels). xD" Oh cool, I've never seen that in action. :P

Jonk 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Bot is 210% at a speed of 100 Atk's/Min. Avenger with SP (which you would use if you were at Himes) has an avarage % of 180% x 1.5(SP) x 1.5(Avg Crit) = 405% at a speed of 92 Atk's/Min so in comparison redusing it to 405% x 92/100 = 372.6%. In terms of % avenger takes the cake. Now the only argument left is the damage range of bandit is higher than a sins but still it would have to be 192% higher to make up the diffrence.

Harun 04/15/09 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Joba said: "Assassins don't even have any mob control...." fixed.