Benefits and downsides of Ultimate Adventurers.

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thread starter Etherealize Nov 15 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The benefits of making an Ultimate Adventurer: 1. Able to go truly statless. i.e. thieves with 4 DEX etc. 2. Max level of 200. 3. Wearing equipment 10 levels earlier than the designated level. 4. Starting out at L50 instead of L1. 5. 24 Blessing (well, this comes from a 120 Cygnus but still.) 6. Obtaining a special Cygnus skill within the same job: Vampire for Thieves; Soul Driver for Warriors; Shark Wave or Pirates; Wind Piercing for Archers; and Fire Curtain for Magicians. This skill automatically gains a level every 10 levels, from L50 to 90. Thank you Egyetlen for this! 7. Able to share NX with normal Adventurers. (yes srs.) 8. Special statless robe/shoes/hat/gloves/weapon given at L50 and L70 (including an all stat +2, 2 atk/m.atk medal) that give special effects (e.g. +8 all stats/+7 atk/+150 HP/MP/+25 acc for the L80 set) if the entire set is worn together. *EDIT: These equips are L60/80, able to be worn at L50/70 because of Empress's Strengthening, meaning the L80 equips enter a new tier of potential. Full credit and thanks to egyetlen for pointing this out again! 9. A weaker version of Echo, The Empress's Prayer, where your attack increases by 4% for two hours, with a cooldown of 24 hours. 10. Some jobs (paladin/buccs) are purely orgasmic with their Cygnus skills. The downsides of an Ultimate Adventurer: 1. Lack of HP/MP as you miss out on the boosts from 1st/2nd job advance. 2. Lack of boost in inventory slots from the 1st/2nd job advance. 3. Some Cygnus skills for some jobs are pretty much useless. 4. If deleted, unable to create another UA unless you reach 120 on another Cygnus - i.e. one UA per Cygnus. 5. The items required for the L120 Cygnus to collect in order to create a UA has a notorious drop rate - takes hours, if not days to acquire. 6. Blessing of the Empress does not stack with Blessing of the Fairy. Whatever is higher overrides the lower blessing. 7. The special Cygnus skills can be obtained by L70+ normal Adventurers, including DBs, by doing quests. (once again, terrible drop rate for quest items) Some pros/cons of Ultimate Adventurers that I thought I'd post, purely because of this stifling boredom. Please correct me if I've made any errors, or is missing information. I apologise for the messiness of this post. THANK YOU AGAIN TO Egyetlen FOR THIS. [quote] egyetlen : OT: additional info for normal adventurers: 1. Quests for Empress's Strengthening and CK skills start at 70 2. Quests for CK skills require completion of Quests for Empress's Strengthening 3. Every 10 you have to initial it again to get the Sp for the skills [/quote]

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MrGlenn 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

This is in the new tespia server or something? Anyway creating a cygnus lvling to lvl 120 just for the adventure kinda crazy..

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theNorm 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] MrGlenn : This is in the new tespia server or something? Anyway creating a cygnus lvling to lvl 120 just for the adventure kinda crazy.. [/quote] Not that crazy. They're so easy to level that's it's barely a blip in the normal grind.

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Sephisis 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Can we create UA's that are DBs?

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Etherealize 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I don't think so. > < But you CAN get UA skills for a DB, if you do all the quests.

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RedTyphoon 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I haven't heard that much about this; anywhere that I can see some more info on them?

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tlokl 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Does UA get a skill that give them 10% hp and mp increase?

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Etherealize + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Uhm, I can access Insoya and Playforum, being able to read Korean and all that; at least, that's where I got all this from. Sorry, but I don't know if there are any English sites with more info like this. > < above : they DO get a skill that gives permanent 20% HP/MP increase; but their HP/MP is still lower than normal adventurers (~3-500 difference on pirates iirc)

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lindemann 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lets say i got a blaze wiz cyg lvl 120, can i make a thief UA?

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Etherealize 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] lindemann : Lets say i got a blaze wiz cyg lvl 120, can i make a thief UA? [/quote] Yes. It doesn't matter the job of the Cygnus; regardless of whether it is a BW, NW or whatever, you can still choose to make any UA you want. Think of it this way: as long as you have a L120 Cygnus, you are free to make whatever UA you want. Blaze Wiz - NL UA; NW - Bishop; WA - Drk; and et cetera.

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lindemann 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Etherealize : Cool So, since BW is the easiest to level, thats the job to choose? xD

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XNightCygnus 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

DW, and BW are the easiest to level.

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Etherealize 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] XNightCygnus : DW, and BW are the easiest to level. [/quote] Post-BB, I strongly recommend DW as a Cygnus blessing/UA mule. BW will be absolutely HORRIBLE after BB, as their main training method will no longer be effective at all.

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Jamez 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

5. The items required for the L120 Cygnus to collect in order to create a UA has a notorious drop rate - takes hours, if not days to acquire. I thought that only level 70 characters had to go through that painful quest to obtain/level up their move.. iconfused

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SilverFoxR 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

There are a lot of false or missing information here, sorry to say... [quote] Etherealize : The benefits of making an Ultimate Adventurer: 1. Able to go truly statless. i.e. thieves with 4 DEX etc. 2. Max level of 200. 3. Wearing equipment 10 levels earlier than the designated level. 4. Starting out at L50 instead of L1. 5. 24 Blessing (well, this comes from a 120 Cygnus but still.) 6. Obtaining a special Cygnus skill within the same job: Vampire for Thieves; Soul Driver for Warriors; Shark Wave or Pirates; Wind Piercing for Archers; and Fire Curtain for Magicians. 7. Able to share NX with normal Adventurers. (yes srs.) 8. Special statless robe/shoes/hat/gloves/weapon given at L50 and L70 (including an all stat +2, 2 atk/m.atk medal) that give special effects (e.g. +8 all stats/+7 atk/+150 HP/MP/+25 acc for the L80 set) if the entire set is worn together. 9. A weaker version of Echo, The Empress's Prayer, where your attack increases by 4% for two hours, with a cooldown of 24 hours. 10. Some jobs (paladin/buccs) are purely orgasmic with their Cygnus skills. [/quote] 1) Although a thief could lower their base DEX later, going statless is not necissarily a perk. Most statless classes (namely thieves, bowmen and pirates) often take a detriment at higher levels either by having less damage or being WAY too costly. Additionally, new systems are being put into place in Big Bang which imply that going statless may actually cause more problems. 2) Like every class other than Cygnus... not really an "benefit"... 3) That's a good one =3 4) True, but you need to get to lv 120 on a Cygnus to make it... takes less time to make any other class. 5) Wouldn't the Blessing only be level 12? Also, if you have a higher level normal class (IE: 130+ Hero), the buff is replaced. 6) The special Cygnus skill is available to ALL adventurers... Ultimate Adventurers simply don't have to do the necissary quests. 7) Well, they ARE "Adventurers..." 8) I like that too actually =3 9) Really? I think I missed the memo on that one. Kinna cool... 10) Indeed... though Thieves are relatively boned, since Vampire really kinna sucks... [quote] Etherealize : The downsides of an Ultimate Adventurer: 1. Lack of HP/MP as you miss out on the boosts from 1st/2nd job advance. 2. Lack of boost in inventory slots from the 1st/2nd job advance. 3. Some Cygnus skills for some jobs are pretty much useless. 4. If deleted, unable to create another UA unless you reach 120 on another Cygnus - i.e. one UA per Cygnus. 5. The items required for the L120 Cygnus to collect in order to create a UA has a notorious drop rate - takes hours, if not days to acquire. 6. Blessing of the Empress does not stack with Blessing of the Fairy. Whatever is higher overrides the lower blessing. 7. The special Cygnus skills can be obtained by L70+ normal Adventurers, including DBs, by doing quests. (once again, terrible drop rate for quest items) [/quote] 1) Wrong - you allocate your skills at level 50. In Big Bang, skills lik

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