warriors: accuracy and dex post-bb

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thread starter SteveLeopard Nov 14 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

i've read on some threads that warriors will be completely fine with 4 dex post-bb, being able to hit everything 100% of the time as long as they are above the level of the monster. i've also read some that say it's easier to have a lower dex cap, but you will still need SOME dex/accuracy. i'd like to know if you can really just leave your dex at 4 or not, and if not, approximately how much accuracy you'll need to 100% hit everything (except pink bean) in the game

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chukz1594 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Im wondering the same thing, I'm guessing if what we hear is correct warriors do not need dex anymore.

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boneman 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

You will need around 225 accuracy to hit every mob except pink been, 625 if you want to 100% hit him as well. 100% hitting everything under your level is false. You do however get a cape from ludibrium adding 420 accuracy... so that'll solve most of the problems. You'll make do with base dex (and not adding anything via equips) till about level 110, after that warriors will start to see misses. Hope that cleared stuff up (Do note however that most of this comes from kms, i don't think they'll change much in gMS, but you never know)

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SteveLeopard 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

420 accuracy... wow, that really DOES solve everything

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boneman 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yeah. I like to think it was made specifically to fight pink been.

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SteveLeopard 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

well this sucks, i have 105 dex atm w/ equips -_-

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Alarista 11/14/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] boneman : You do however get a cape from ludibrium adding 420 accuracy... so that'll solve most of the problems. [/quote] Ludibrium cape from doing what? LPQ? lmpq?

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boneman 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

By beating papulatus, post-bb of course. Though if you already have the cape its stats will get updated most likely.

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Efemera + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The thing is, even with 100 accuracy you'll have an 95% hitrate on mobs with 225 avoid and a 85% hitrate on PB, unlike now where if you're missing 40-50 accuracy, you'll be missing a monster almost all the time. Accuracy is needed, but it doesn't make a big difference.

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theNorm 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Efemera : The thing is, even with 100 accuracy you'll have an 95% hitrate on mobs with 225 avoid and a 85% hitrate on PB, unlike now where if you're missing 40-50 accuracy, you'll be missing a monster almost all the time. Accuracy is needed, but it doesn't make a big difference. [/quote] This. Even with 8 accuracy(the truncated absolute minimum possible with base stats), you still 77% hit PB if you're it's lvl. That's better accuracy than my DK first training at himes with a karstan and Bless(before Zhelms were made mass available)!

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boneman 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

True, can't believe i forgot to mention this -_-', Thanks. (and my problem is i like to 100% hit stuff, guessing that has something to do with it)

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AdroxNight 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Efemera : The thing is, even with 100 accuracy you'll have an 95% hitrate on mobs with 225 avoid and a 85% hitrate on PB, unlike now where if you're missing 40-50 accuracy, you'll be missing a monster almost all the time. Accuracy is needed, but it doesn't make a big difference. [/quote] I have to disagree. A 95% hit rate means you lose 5% of your DPM, and on top of that you lose consistancy in your attacks. 1 miss throws your rhythm off when training. 1 miss every 19 hits (on average) is very annoying on my opinion. Then of course we have PB, where losing 15% of our DPM is once again a pretty big deal. The penalty is no where near as bad as it was pre-BB, but it still is a major factor at later levels and it will hurt you if you completely ignore your Acc.

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Efemera + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AdroxNight : I have to disagree. A 95% hit rate means you lose 5% of your DPM, and on top of that you lose consistancy in your attacks. 1 miss throws your rhythm off when training. 1 miss every 19 hits (on average) is very annoying on my opinion. Then of course we have PB, where losing 15% of our DPM is once again a pretty big deal. The penalty is no where near as bad as it was pre-BB, but it still is a major factor at later levels and it will hurt you if you completely ignore your Acc. [/quote] 5% is very little in MapleStory. A 10 attack potion is more than 5% for many classes. If missing out on 100 accuracy means you can equip a certain equip that boosts your damage by more than 5%, then by all means it's worth it to deal with the miss rate. Also, that was a pretty extreme example. Even if you completely ignore your accuracy, you will not only have 100, unless for some reason you have no gear that adds dex or accuracy as a side effect at all. Simply equipping a Scarlion Hat increases your accuracy by about 52, and with Mastery you should have 68.8 accuracy without putting any points in DEX or getting any gear at all. And the most important thing to make note of, is adding DEX to improve your accuracy and damage does LESS for your DPS than adding STR to improve your damage. So even if you have no funds and you have to deal with a miss rate, it is still better to have 4 dex than any other amount of dex.

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maplest0ry65 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Srs wen I solo himes at 84 I miss about 1 Time per crusher, but I still gain heap of exp.

bello99 11/15/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Efemera : 5% is very little in MapleStory. A 10 attack potion is more than 5% for many classes. If missing out on 100 accuracy means you can equip a certain equip that boosts your damage by more than 5%, then by all means it's worth it to deal with the miss rate. Also, that was a pretty extreme example. Even if you completely ignore your accuracy, you will not only have 100, unless for some reason you have no gear that adds dex or accuracy as a side effect at all. Simply equipping a Scarlion Hat increases your accuracy by about 52, and with Mastery you should have 68.8 accuracy without putting any points in DEX or getting any gear at all. And the most important thing to make note of, is adding DEX to improve your accuracy and damage does LESS for your DPS than adding STR to improve your damage. So even if you have no funds and you have to deal with a miss rate, it is still better to have 4 dex than any other amount of dex. [/quote] Your missing the point the thing is your going to want dex after BB. No I'm not saying base dex but your going to want dex over acc on your equips simply becasue dex plays a larger role in your damage post BB. It will be cheaper to say add 30 base dex then to start at 4 simply becuse every single class in the game but mages needs dex in some way shape of form including two of the new classes so expect the price of dex scrolls to go even higher then they already are. No one is saying add base dex you don't have to but it will be cheaper. Also people seem to forget that acc is about the same as it is now the only thing thats really differnt is the 5% missrate for every lvl you are below the monster. for example say there is a lvl 50 monster and your lvl 49 and your acc is 100. The acc needed to hit this monster at lvl 49 is say 50 you will hit this monster 95% of the time even though you have more then enough acc to hit it 100% of the time when your lvl 50. The same thing can be said if you get to lvl 50 and only have 30 acc and you need 50 your going to miss most of the time. I really have no idea where people are getting acc is useless.

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