VIP vs. Timeless/Reverse

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thread starter FerretOrder Nov 11 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hi, I was wondering which Spear, if both have three lines and scrolled to the highest potential w/o counting Enhancement Scrolling would make a better endgame, technically speaking. I mean, damage vs. damage, speed vs. speed and so on. Thanks1

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ialmostquit 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

VIP would own literally all timeless/reverse items

shosen123 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

VIP spear destroys timeless/reverse spear in damage, potential and i think there the same speed but VIP costs way more

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darkspawn980 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

timeless have the possibility to be better statwise, HOWEVER, potential system says VIP is better in all circumstances.

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FerretOrder 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wait, so if it's 120+ it has better potential than an item 71-120...?

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cygnusultra 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

The potential on the VIP can be so godly it can blind a man.

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alex168 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

yea 120+ get 4,8 and 12% while 71-120 get 3,6 and 9%. Reverse would have like 5more atk,str and dex fully scrolled but since VIP potential can give like 6%+ more potential when well cubed VIP is better

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ReldWolf 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

VIP weapons

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idarkstar175 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

vip is also stat-less

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Starblitzkrieg 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] FerretOrder : Wait, so if it's 120+ it has better potential than an item 71-120...? [/quote] I believe VIP weapons can have up to 12% stats.

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tekken15 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cygnusultra : The potential on the VIP can be so godly it can blind a man. [/quote] What he said

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zKerrigan 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

As a player with 2 Reverse, GET VIP!

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Sharpie + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

GL getting decent stats with 30% boss. Hell, VarsityHero has 6% dex on his 2nd line after boss %. So I say, if you can't afford a VIP then settle with a reverse. You won't be losing by much since the potential system is totally random and 30% boss is what most people aim for. That means the 2nd and 3rd line may not be what boosts your damage the most...example: 30% boss, 8% accuracy, 8% m.def. :P

AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Sharpie : GL getting decent stats with 30% boss. Hell, VarsityHero has 6% dex on his 2nd line after boss %. So I say, if you can't afford a VIP then settle with a reverse. You won't be losing by much since the potential system is totally random and 30% boss is what most people aim for. That means the 2nd and 3rd line may not be what boosts your damage the most...example: 30% boss, 8% accuracy, 8% m.def. :P [/quote] I'd go for VIP's. Even with the cost efficiency debate, VIP's are superior. Its clean stats are much higher than a reverse with gems/crystals, and on top of that they are tradable. So if you do wish to obtain a different weapon later, you can sell your VIP. Once you no longer want a reverse... you are stuck with it or you drop it - no resale value at all. Also, reverse weapons can get expensive. At 5mill per PoT, its a total of 225mill for all 45 PoTs, and then you'll probably pay 50-150mill obtaining the Adv Diamond, and other Adv Cystals. Almost all VIP's I've seen sell for less than that. Then of course, those that dont have $100 in NX will probably settle for not having 30% boss damage, and will probably settle for 12% damage or something. And those that do have $100 in nx might be willing to aim for 30% boss damage with 12% str or 12% damage.

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bello99 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] AdroxNight : I'd go for VIP's. Even with the cost efficiency debate, VIP's are superior. Its clean stats are much higher than a reverse with gems/crystals, and on top of that they are tradable. So if you do wish to obtain a different weapon later, you can sell your VIP. Once you no longer want a reverse... you are stuck with it or you drop it - no resale value at all. Also, reverse weapons can get expensive. At 5mill per PoT, its a total of 225mill for all 45 PoTs, and then you'll probably pay 50-150mill obtaining the Adv Diamond, and other Adv Cystals. Almost all VIP's I've seen sell for less than that. Then of course, those that dont have $100 in NX will probably settle for not having 30% boss damage, and will probably settle for 12% damage or something. And those that do have $100 in nx might be willing to aim for 30% boss damage with 12% str or 12% damage. [/quote] I think I need to go to bello I mean your PoTs are still 5m there go for about 1.5-2m here. As a warrior you should just be fnding them yourself anyway as you should be training in oblvion 4. As for vip weapons I don't know whats it like in bello but all popular vip weapons here that are 3 lined go for at the very least 1 bil.

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