Witch Stews anyone?

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thread starter Mageklan Nov 11 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hello basilers. I decided to play maple after a few mounth break, so I logged on for the first time yesterday (haha, got 15k maple points for that) :D. Anyway, the real question is.. my friend is offering me 200 stews for 160m. Since I wasn`t around when the halloween event was going on, I don`t know whether to buy them or not. I also want to know if the price of stews will rise..? Thanks for your time.

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BlazeLeo 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] jimmyjxia : Buy them NOW... like seriously they're going to rise for sure after the halloween event. Declining supply + rising prices = win After 5 years, you'll be the only guy with witch stews so you can sell them for 50000bil :D (kidding, but you get the point) Above they WILL rise. They aren't like rings where when you have one, you get to keep it forever. Remember that you're dealing with an item that will be gone after you use it. within a matter of time, people will be using witch stews to boss/train/have fun and in the end the supply will decline to a point where the people with the stews can manipulate the price. [/quote] 100 atk for 10mins>40 atk for 15mins

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myrdrex + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BlazeLeo : 100 atk for 10mins>40 atk for 15mins [/quote] Yes, but it's harder to get an onyx apple. Trying to train with them them can be quite expensive. Stews, however, can still make training very easy, and they are a fraction of the price. Your point is valid- I can't realistically see stews getting close to the value of an apple, for the exact reason you pointed out. I'd never spend 20M on 40 atk if I could get 100atk for 1/2 that price (just making up prices here). But, I personally see a market for stews that will gradually increase over time and eventually hit some ceiling at maybe 1/4 - 1/3 the cost of an apple. That makes it cheap enough to, say, fully train a new character from 1 - 100+ for only a handful of millions of mesos. (I just trained a SI mule from 1 - 110 using about 50ish stews. I used the stews for every level from 55-ish+- where you have to really start grinding). It allowed me to train at much higher level mobs than I would have otherwise (Vikerolas in 50s, Gallops at 70, those new Ulu petrifighters from 80-110), saving me a ton of time, potions, buying 2Xs, etc... So, the 40M worth of stews really paid for itself! Leveling 2-3 times per 1/2 hour of 4X was just sick (obviously that rate decreased when I got to 105+- but never less than 1 level per 1/2 hour buff). That, in a nutshell, is why I think there will be a good market for reasonably priced stews.

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Srurtuphr 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BlazeLeo : 100 atk for 10mins>40 atk for 15mins [/quote] Which is why it'll sell for less, but still for quite a bit. You don't go around saying no one will buy Zhelms because a Ravana helm is better, do you?

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Mageklan 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So, will i still make some profit out of them even without the exp they gave?

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xrockinrobin 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cool123ter : use ur own adive "ur dealing with an item that will be gone after you use it" witch stew will be back next year i doubt the pink scrolls will be [/quote] Doesn't matter whether they'll be back or not. It's not like once witch stews start to become limited in number by, say, January, all maplers are going to decide "Let's just not buy them because in nine months we can get them for free again!" A year is a long time. They'll die down in number relatively fast and that's why they'll inflate. Then if they even exist next Halloween, the same process applies.

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BlazeLeo 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] myrdrex : Yes, but it's harder to get an onyx apple. Trying to train with them them can be quite expensive. Stews, however, can still make training very easy, and they are a fraction of the price. Your point is valid- I can't realistically see stews getting close to the value of an apple, for the exact reason you pointed out. I'd never spend 20M on 40 atk if I could get 100atk for 1/2 that price (just making up prices here). But, I personally see a market for stews that will gradually increase over time and eventually hit some ceiling at maybe 1/4 - 1/3 the cost of an apple. That makes it cheap enough to, say, fully train a new character from 1 - 100+ for only a handful of millions of mesos. (I just trained a SI mule from 1 - 110 using about 50ish stews. I used the stews for every level from 55-ish+- where you have to really start grinding). It allowed me to train at much higher level mobs than I would have otherwise (Vikerolas in 50s, Gallops at 70, those new Ulu petrifighters from 80-110), saving me a ton of time, potions, buying 2Xs, etc... So, the 40M worth of stews really paid for itself! Leveling 2-3 times per 1/2 hour of 4X was just sick (obviously that rate decreased when I got to 105+- but never less than 1 level per 1/2 hour buff). That, in a nutshell, is why I think there will be a good market for reasonably priced stews. [/quote] ah but you forget. apples used to be 4-5m ea before the APQ glitch which caused them to inflate to 10m+ each. when it is back to 4-5m ea it will deflate the stews too most likely/

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cool123ter 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xrockinrobin : Doesn't matter whether they'll be back or not. It's not like once witch stews start to become limited in number by, say, January, all maplers are going to decide "Let's just not buy them because in nine months we can get them for free again!" A year is a long time. They'll die down in number relatively fast and that's why they'll inflate. Then if they even exist next Halloween, the same process applies. [/quote] thats wat everyone thought about the pink scroll, look what happened now.

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myrdrex 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BlazeLeo : ah but you forget. apples used to be 4-5m ea before the APQ glitch which caused them to inflate to 10m+ each. when it is back to 4-5m ea it will deflate the stews too most likely/ [/quote] Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't think stews will get more than a couple million for exactly that reason! You wouldn't spend 4M on 40atk if 5M could get you 100atk!~ But, for training purposes, you might spend 1-2M each to stockpile 16 stews to let you grind on 4X for an entire 4 hours... You might not spend 2-4 times as much to grind with apples (if you can even find that many). I think stews have a lot of intrinsic value- just not the skyrocketing prices that some people might be expecting.

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BlazeLeo 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] myrdrex : Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't think stews will get more than a couple million for exactly that reason! You wouldn't spend 4M on 40atk if 5M could get you 100atk!~ But, for training purposes, you might spend 1-2M each to stockpile 16 stews to let you grind on 4X for an entire 4 hours... You might not spend 2-4 times as much to grind with apples (if you can even find that many). I think stews have a lot of intrinsic value- just not the skyrocketing prices that some people might be expecting. [/quote] i doubt the stews will go over 2m each. by the time apple prices deflate back to their original, apples will be used instead of stews IMO apple training is still better than stews. even with the higher price (at 4-5m ea not the 10m+ prices now)

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YouAzle 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cool123ter : they wont rise everyone is stacking them like pink scrolls [/quote] it takes more effort than pink scrolls, ppl too lazy too.. lost 200 of mine though, id say theyll sell for 2m around there

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cool123ter 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] YouAzle : it takes more effort than pink scrolls, ppl too lazy too.. lost 200 of mine though, id say theyll sell for 2m around there [/quote] moving a mouse > doing the same thing for hours ? wow ppl are so lazy

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xrockinrobin 11/11/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] cool123ter : thats wat everyone thought about the pink scroll, look what happened now. [/quote] What are you even getting at? Pink scrolls in windia were 5mil each at their lowest and they sell for 4O-45mil now. That's called inflation. And since they keep being used up with no way for them to be re-introduced into the economy, they'll keep going up. Witch Stews are the exact same thing. Maybe you should go take a high school economics class? It's a very basic law of demand. And above with the being lazy thing? It's very boring and monotonous to make hundreds of stews. It's not a matter of being too lazy to click. It's just completely boring. No one wants to spend hours doing that; it's just the potential financial gain that motivates them.

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epkrnftblluva 11/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

were witch stews around every halloween? just wondering as long as they sell for 2.5 mil max in 1-2 months ill be happy

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tyr2067 11/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Srurtuphr : Which is why it'll sell for less, but still for quite a bit. You don't go around saying no one will buy Zhelms because a Ravana helm is better, do you? [/quote] Factor in the defence, requirements and the looks of a Zhelm alongisde scrolling slots and it could be equal if not better were it not for potentials.

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KHRoxas 11/16/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

sorry if noob question What does the Stew do?

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