How much ATT Shield+1H sword can beat

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thread starter souleater21 Nov 07 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My 105ATT 2H sword? I am looking for terms of DPM, I actually don't care if it BEATS my 2H but can come near. Right now my range is 2.9k and i'm looking for maybe in the range of 2.5K'ish.

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taleko 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

you didn't listen. you have a 105 att weapon right? Now you need you list all your other sources of att. i.e. BoF 10, WG 8, etc. without it we are just guessing. or you could post your exact total str, total dex and your max damage range (as seen in the stat window) and we can work our way back.

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souleater21 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Ok Thanks. 14ATT WG, 17BOF, 105ATT 2H sword, 452 Total str, and 57 Total dex. 1604~2905

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iTardz 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Total atack of 1H sword + shield has to be 120 to have same range as your sword.

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souleater21 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Above Thank you.

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devil3819 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Str is insignificant. If I remember correctly (99%chance wrong) the speed advantage multiplier is 1.17 from fast 5 to normal 6. Check the weapons guide in the warrior section, it is very in-depth. It also has alot to do with total weapon attack. A100 attack 1h + 20 attack shield could equal a 120 attack 2h, if other attack bonuses (PAC wg etc) are high enough. TRUST ME read the guide

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taleko + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] devil3819 : Str is insignificant. If I remember correctly (99%chance wrong) the speed advantage multiplier is 1.17 from fast 5 to normal 6. Check the weapons guide in the warrior section, it is very in-depth. It also has alot to do with total weapon attack. A100 attack 1h + 20 attack shield could equal a 120 attack 2h, if other attack bonuses (PAC wg etc) are high enough. TRUST ME read the guide [/quote] I was only asking the STR and total dex (plus the max damage) to test his total att figure he gave us. I know the guide like the back of my hand got a feeling from not even needing to check that normal 6 to fast 5 is 1.09 (its not over 1.1 for one speed level except for Crusher or Fury by memory) His damage checks out, meaning he has no other att sources. using the PS+FA / SB+FA figures normal 6 to fast 5 1.1042 normal 6 to fast 4 1.1979 using the rough general approximation for 2h to 1h 1.1450 using my formula for DPM (sword 1 + common att setup) = (sword 2 + common att setup) power adv/dis-adv x speed adv/dis-adv note: an att shield counts under the sword 1 or 2, not the common att setup, unless comparing 2 1h swords. also if doing a 1h comparison calculate the 1h side on the sword 1 slot. also convert the str the swords/shields give into att too following your str/att. (it will make it far more accurate but not quite perfect) Fast 5 (i.e. RK) 1h + 31 = (105 + 31) x 1.145 / 1.1042 110 att required from sword and shield to match roughly (shield's str will help offset the def problems caused by a faster weaker weapon) Fast 4 (most other 1h) 1h + 31 = (105 + 31) x 1.145 / 1.1979 99 att required from sword and shield to roughly match (an att shield str will help offset some of the def issue) Summary fast 5 needs 110 att Fast 4 needs 99 att Below , slightly different figures for PS/FA or SB/FA and PS, SB, Brandish,

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devil3819 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Then that's probably 4-6, because I was a katana user And I knew it well also, but then I quit my hero

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souleater21 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Does anyone know what's the price for a 107ATT 2Lined RK? u/H

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Cheezzydude 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1766108/0/what__Att_Shield__1H_sword_would_beat_this.html# Please, only make one thread.

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taleko 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Cheezzydude : http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/1766108/0/what__Att_Shield__1H_sword_would_beat_this.html# Please, only make one thread. [/quote] Please, read my comment in that thread, then look at the other comments on that thread and laugh. People in the general section generally have no clue.

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Cheezzydude 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

taleko : Don't you just love the Basil Market community?

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souleater21 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I kinda regret making that other thread, Most of the comments are like 9001ATT one handed sword should beat it....

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