UA Bowmaster = Wild Hunter?

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thread starter koreandrew Nov 06 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So I heard that UA Bowmasters will be about the same as a wild hunter, but I'm not sure. Can anyone explain the details? Because I don't really understand what bonuses come with UA's and normal adventurers.

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Nyniceguy + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Nothing change. Between UA and Non UA there is nothing really to jump up about. Same job=same skills. But UA get at lv 50 when non UA CAN get a lv 70. Its just another thing nexon came up with while speading our money. They just change the name oops not even and added some things. There not even a story line for them. They just pop outta nexon azz, I don't even understand why ppl can be hype for them + the skills is only somewhat usefull in 2job, 3job its pretty USELESS

NLrealNL 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wth is an UA? Uber Archer? lol

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koreandrew 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Lol it's an Ultimate Adventurer xD

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blaylock101 11/07/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm going to have to say that the UA archer skill is pretty useless. Both Arrow Bomb and Arrow rain will both be dominant over the new skill. I think that UA classes do get like a power and hp/mp boost though. So, IMO the only reason you would need to make an UA Archer would be for the HP boost. In the comparison between Bow master and Wild Hunter, Both classes are good, the only difference between who is stronger will be on funding and overall character control.

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Etherealize + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] blaylock101 : I'm going to have to say that the UA archer skill is pretty useless. Both Arrow Bomb and Arrow rain will both be dominant over the new skill. I think that UA classes do get like a power and hp/mp boost though. So, IMO the only reason you would need to make an UA Archer would be for the HP boost. In the comparison between Bow master and Wild Hunter, Both classes are good, the only difference between who is stronger will be on funding and overall character control. [/quote] Actually, UAs have less HP, as they miss out on the HP boost from 1st/2nd job. As well as this, they have less storage, for the same reason as their HP. They have no special advantages over normal adventurers, except that ridiculous Cygnus attack that is pretty much useless. The only "good" thing an UA Archer can do is wear equipments 10 levels below the required level - and this is a very meagre boost. All in all, normal>UA archer; the lack of HP itself should be a very clear indication of this. WHs are not ultimate adventurers of bowmen; they are part of the new Resistance class. Wild Hunters>Bowmasters in terms of DPM. This is as the attack speed of their main skills (Hurricane vs Wild Balkan) is exactly the same, while WHs get a higher weapon damage multiplier of 1.35x (I think - can't recall the precise stats), while BMs are left with the slightly weaker multiplier of 1.15x. (once again, not too sure on the exact stats) xbows are stronger than bows. By this logic, WH>BM in DPM, assuming they are both funded equally. As well as this, WHs can attack whilst moving, while BMs are rendered immobile during attacking. While this is not a huge issue in bossing, as players won't have an opportunity to move too much, this does affect training speed quite significantly, as WHs have an advantage over BMs in speed, the ability to move whilst attacking, and a higher weapon damage multiplier. However, this is merely a theoretic calculation; damage and DPM is more affected by funding than anything else.

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LostPanda 11/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

PLUS wild hunters move a lot faster due to them being able to attack on their mount., however one question I had was will they still be able to use potions will riding their mount?

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Etherealize 11/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

WHs basically live on their mounts; they can do anything and everything except make breakfast on their jaguars.

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NeoDasus + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

explain how a 200% hurricane (BM) is weaker than a 100% hurricane (WH) http://maplesushi.wordpress.com/2010/05/29/wild-hunter-skills/ http://maplestory.wikia.com/wiki/Wild_Shot

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Etherealize 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Wild Hunter's version of Hurricane, Wild Balkan is also 200%. It got boosted. They have FA, with the same attack speed as Hurricane. xbow>bow in damage multiplier. Therefore, WH>BM in DPM.

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NeoDasus 11/12/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

That's bull Nice balancing Nexon

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AyyBabay + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@Etherealize How much HP do UA Archers lose, do you reckon? I'm really curious, as I'm making a level 120 Wind Archer in hopes of making an UA Hunter. Your input would be greatly appreciated. Oh, and, FYI, the Cygnus skill Wind Piercing will do 750% damage x 6 mobs. That's plenty worth pursuing. And although Arrow Rain hits 10 enemies at 400% damage, what are the chances of getting 10 enemies in range? Even if you manage to, Wind Piercing will still do more damage by 500%. Inferno matches Wind Piercing's damage, but it takes 6.7 seconds to do so. And even then, you'll have to KO the last piece of HP on the monster, as the burn effect won't do that for you. Essentially, the skill Wind Piercing is worth the trouble. In my opinion, it's even better than that 4th job skill that Marksmen have called "Piercing Arrow" because of its ability to be spammed. If the HP lost from making an UA is 200-400, that's fine. The potential skill Hyper Body more than makes up for that. Considering that Bowmasters get a 10% HP skill called Marksmenship in their 4th Job, and that mobs have their damage significantly reduced, having a little HP deduction for making a UA is quite worth the sacrifice for the two skills they obtain.

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Cinicide 11/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Etherealize : Wild Hunter's version of Hurricane, Wild Balkan is also 200%. It got boosted. They have FA, with the same attack speed as Hurricane. xbow>bow in damage multiplier. Therefore, WH>BM in DPM. [/quote] Umm What? Perhaps you have forgotten that Wild Balkan doesnt crit at all. Crit is an extra 230% dmg(post big bang) including SE. So our potentially 430% hurricane vs 200% Wild Balkan can't even be compared. Bottom line Wild Balkan sucks.

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NeoDasus 11/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

they get base crit right?

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iluffbleach 11/25/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Nyniceguy : Nothing change. Between UA and Non UA there is nothing really to jump up about. Same job=same skills. But UA get at lv 50 when non UA CAN get a lv 70. Its just another thing nexon came up with while speading our money. They just change the name oops not even and added some things. There not even a story line for them. They just pop outta nexon azz, I don't even understand why ppl can be hype for them + the skills is only somewhat usefull in 2job, 3job its pretty USELESS [/quote] you my friend is very WRONG! -UA get 24 bonus weapon att from lvl 120 cygnus -they can wear equips 10 lvls above their lvl (ex. sauna at lvl 20) -20% permanent bonus hp and mp -weap/magic attack increase 4% for 2 hours buff -and armour set that gives weapon att bonus -UA only weapon now is that the same as regular adventurer? i dont think so

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