What's a good Shadower Build?

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thread starter WorkOfArt Oct 22 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

AP build, to be specific, level-by-level. I have enough funding for a lot of good stuff so I'm going STR. I've seen some guides say "dexless until 7x, regdex until 8x, str enough to equip the shields, etc." but I don't know how to allocate my AP to the exact number. I don't want to have to use a single Ap reset on making a good shadower build. Also, for you pro shadowers with str builds out there, what's your base dex/str?

wallywaffles 10/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I'm not really a "pro", but base str 25ish, base dex 100ish If you're willing to go dexless till 7x, I'd just go dexless all the way (and strless) now that alien weapons are here. The AP you'll build up on luk will help you a lot. Not only does the VIP dagger have the highest attack, but you're looking at ~130 dex + ~75 str that you can put into luk. Pretty sure 200 luk >> 15 att from d. khanjar, and then %luk equips will also give you more.

My Characters: Pasquinshy - 127 Bellocan Shadower

TheMagistic 10/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@ above, there will be a lot of fun to be had finding level 80+ statless equips for the 9% luck potential. I believe the only ones out right now are the strigeman equips. Also, Zhelms, MoNs or HTP/CHTP cuts that 200 figure by at least 40. There are also equips that can only be scrolled for dex, bringing that figure down even lower. For the most funded, you're only looking at 0-20 skill points used for wielding equipment. We would need to know your exact funding to be able to decide the base stats and even with that exact funding, it would still be difficult to pinpoint the exact base you should have.

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Deathunit10 10/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

more and more shadowers are pouring in, meaning a decrease in supplies for dragon khanjar, so the shield theory might be useless if we don't have another event or if it takes you to long to get to level 120.

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WorkOfArt 10/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Deathunit10 : more and more shadowers are pouring in, meaning a decrease in supplies for dragon khanjar, so the shield theory might be useless if we don't have another event or if it takes you to long to get to level 120. [/quote] Lv120 takes me under a week. @2above My funding exceeds 10billion, but I want to use as little $ as possible since this shadower's not my main.

iamfull 10/22/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

For some reason, I don't doubt your funding. My current stats are 45 str 100 Dex 4 Int 570 Luck With equips though, I have way over 100 Str, and I only need 75 for the D.Khanjar, so I really just need 20 base str. For Dex, I am lacking dex equipment right now, but I plan to just get the minimum and focus on the % luck equips. Honestly though, it is possible to make a str shadower while having just 4 str. (Not sure about the amount of dex though, that depends on how much you are willing to spend for dex equips)

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Starblitzkrieg + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Remember though, don't sacrifice luk %s or atk equips for a few more points in dex/str. With average dex/str and good luk equips, I'm sure one can outdamage a low str/dex build. Just remember, you don't need more than 75 str and 160 dex.

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Deathunit10 10/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

WorkOfArt well, it took me a while since i dumped my hermits fundings (20m) onto my Shadower a few years ago so yeah. I didn't have leech, i didn't have 2x exp/cards till level 75 and what not.

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WorkOfArt 10/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Starblitzkrieg : Remember though, don't sacrifice luk %s or atk equips for a few more points in dex/str. With average dex/str and good luk equips, I'm sure one can outdamage a low str/dex build. Just remember, you don't need more than 75 str and 160 dex. [/quote] So it would be wise to get a top/bottom that gives me lots of STR and DEX (bottom DEX/top STR), and then potential/cube it to give % of luk. In other words, make the actual equips give pure dex count until I have the required dex/str and then get luk & damage?

aaronthecow 10/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Pulling off a 25/4 without going over top of attack equips is easy when you know what your doing =p.

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xVainGlory + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] aaronthecow : Pulling off a 25/4 without going over top of attack equips is easy when you know what your doing =p. [/quote] Thats why we're both 25/4, right And @ first poster, statless vip daggers mean nothing if you need stats to equip your shield

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aaronthecow 10/23/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] xVainGlory : Thats why we're both 25/4, right And @ first poster, statless vip daggers mean nothing if you need stats to equip your shield [/quote] Difference between knowing what your doing and having the money to reset a shiz load of points.

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KolakCC 10/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Level 86 - 13 base str, 108 base dex. Pumped my dex a little high, oh well Got enough for khanjar

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spike123422 10/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] wallywaffles : I'm not really a "pro", but base str 25ish, base dex 100ish If you're willing to go dexless till 7x, I'd just go dexless all the way (and strless) now that alien weapons are here. The AP you'll build up on luk will help you a lot. Not only does the VIP dagger have the highest attack, but you're looking at ~130 dex + ~75 str that you can put into luk. Pretty sure 200 luk >> 15 att from d. khanjar, and then %luk equips will also give you more. [/quote] dexless shads are terrible. Up until shad dexless is arguably the stronget bandit - cb. but once a dexless hits shad it pretty much evens out with the rest of the people or lowers. But i wold agree with going 25 base str and 90 - 100 dex. also @TS when did going STR require money? i went STR at like 115 and it didn't cost a whole lot maybe times have changed since i last played but how expensive could str equips be now?

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wallywaffles 10/24/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

spike123422 dragon khanjars are like 200m for 14 att now :/ If he's really funded (which he said he was) he can get a good Chaos horntail/zakum to make up most of his dex and strength. You're right that it's better to add a few points to dex than wear a sauna robe and miss out on better potentials, but having a lower base dex/str means you get more from % luk.

My Characters: Pasquinshy - 127 Bellocan Shadower