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thread starter Veldiir Oct 18 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
well after reading all the bb updates it looks like the power sequence for the mage classes will be battle mage>evan>i/l>f/p>bishop does this seem right im open to ideas
My Characters: DeathLizard7 - 51 Khaini Evan 5th Growth
Quickjumper7 10/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
With the exact same funding: f/p>i/l>evan>battle mage>bishop With different funding: funding>funding>funding>funding>funding
My Characters: Quickjumper7 - 87 Windia I/L Mage
Abysseon + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Quickjumper7 : With the exact same funding: f/p>i/l>evan>battle mage>bishop With different funding: funding>funding>funding>funding>funding [/quote] Actually, it should be I/L>F/P>Evan>BM>Bishop. DoT doesn't seem to do that much even when stacked compared to spamming CL/Para... >.>
My Characters: Abysseon - 133 Scania I/L Arch Mage
DivinePingas + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Abysseon : Actually, it should be I/L>F/P>Evan>BM>Bishop. DoT doesn't do that much even when stacked... >.> [/quote] I agree Edit: That's weird, the charts show that F/P deal more raw damage...Still, I/L are pretty much the same in a different way.
My Characters: PingasFreeze - 72 Bellocan Aran in Memory
Veldiir 10/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
really? i could have sworn that evans would be higher than f/ps and i thought BM's would own wow im misguided
My Characters: DeathLizard7 - 51 Khaini Evan 5th Growth
GuardianWyrm + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Veldiir : really? i could have sworn that evans would be higher than f/ps and i thought BM's would own wow im misguided [/quote] If i'm not mistaken, evans do indeed deal more damage, however, we're just talking about damage here. Due to speed, the other mages have the upperhand and therefor a higher DPM
My Characters: Lightningint - 157 Khaini I/L Arch Mage
buckylastard 10/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Normally I'd say I/L > F/P > Evan > Battle Mage > Bishop. But when all the chars are incredibly funded: Battle Mage > F/P > I/L > Evan > Bishop.
My Characters: HwaJaeMage - 180 Scania F/P Arch Mage
Abysseon 10/18/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] buckylastard : Normally I'd say I/L > F/P > Evan > Battle Mage > Bishop. But when all the chars are incredibly funded: Battle Mage > F/P > I/L > Evan > Bishop. [/quote] Hmm, I'm starting to think that as well but even with that funding I would put BMs slightly above or around Archmages. A 200 Battle Mage solo'd zakum in 10:16.
My Characters: Abysseon - 133 Scania I/L Arch Mage
Veldiir 10/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
a lvl 200 mechanic soloed zak in 3:45......just saying lolz and man everyone is saying evans near bottom of DPM list =( im really getting into my evan now and crud i thought we were better
My Characters: DeathLizard7 - 51 Khaini Evan 5th Growth
AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
Are people just using highly flawed DPM lists that only focus on one in-game situation to determine a hierarchy? Every class is going to have it's advantages and disadvantages. You cant simply just state AM>Bishop or Battle Mage>Evan, because one class is not completely superior to annother in every situation. And especially with that BS potential system around: Little kid with rich parents who stole their parent's credit card > Everyone else.
My Characters: AdroxNight - 145 Bellocan Hero
DivinePingas 10/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] AdroxNight : Are people just using highly flawed DPM lists that only focus on one in-game situation to determine a hierarchy? Every class is going to have it's advantages and disadvantages. You cant simply just state AM>Bishop or Battle Mage>Evan, because one class is not completely superior to annother in every situation. And especially with that BS potential system around: Little kid with rich parents who stole their parent's credit card > Everyone else. [/quote] I agree with ye laddie except fer one thing - potentials. Potential items have the power to make regular people powerful, not just people with 2.1bil mesos. I'm not sure what you want to say about using NX and potential items, is it something related to cubes or something? You don't need those to be strong with a potential item.
My Characters: PingasFreeze - 72 Bellocan Aran in Memory
Efemera + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] DivinePingas : I agree with ye laddie except fer one thing - potentials. Potential items have the power to make regular people powerful, not just people with 2.1bil mesos. I'm not sure what you want to say about using NX and potential items, is it something related to cubes or something? You don't need those to be strong with a potential item. [/quote] You need cubes to have half-decent odds of getting good potential items. Otherwise have fun hunting monsters for hundreds of hours just to find one unique item that's below average. Without cubes, it's very difficult to get past +20% stat or so.
My Characters: OcaLily - 156 Bera F/P Arch Mage
AcidOxide 10/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I'm surprised, I was lead to believe that BM's would be leaving all the other mages in the dust.
My Characters: AcidOxide - 124 Windia F/P Arch Mage
giblets + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
I think the hierarchy will go more like this People who buy loads of NX> people who buy some NX> people who do surveys for NX>people who buy no NX
My Characters: jibiets - 155 Broa Bow Master
DivinePingas 10/19/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT
[quote] Efemera : You need cubes to have half-decent odds of getting good potential items. Otherwise have fun hunting monsters for hundreds of hours just to find one unique item that's below average. Without cubes, it's very difficult to get past +20% stat or so. [/quote] I just checked what the cubes do. What's the price for one? If it's above 1k then there is no point in buying them unless you're epic rich or like gambling. I much prefer to hunt for my items and I don't care if they aren't the most powerful items in the game.
My Characters: PingasFreeze - 72 Bellocan Aran in Memory
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