New BM - SE or Hurricane?

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thread starter lanhowee Oct 08 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Hey guys, I've recently hit 120 on my BM and i was looking on guides for my skill. I've found most guides say to get 1hurricane, max SE then 21 hurricane, but i recently found a guide which said 1hurri, 15SE and then 21 hurri. After doing some calculations, at level 133 (when it's either maxed SE with 6 huri or 21 hurri with 15 SE) that the latter build (15SE with 21 hurri) does more minimum damage. At level 120, my damage range is 1767 - 3152 without buffs or warrior elixers. Now, for the sake of convenience i'll say that's my damage range at 133. First build: Maxed SE and 6 Hurricane Maxed SE gives 140% damage (1.4x multiplier) 6 hurricane is 56% damage My minimum damage with Maxed SE (if the monster has 0 defence) is 0.56*1767*1.4 = 1385.328 Second build: 15SE and 21 Hurri 15SE gives 125% damage (1.25x multiplier) 21hurri 91% damage My minimum damage is 0.91*1767*1.25 = 2009.9625 That's a difference of nearly 625 MINIMUM damage between the two builds...of course I haven't factored in criticals and the increased likelihood for the maxed SE build (Let's see..increased 7% critical, hurricane is 8arrows/second, so that's about 2 seconds for 1 extra critical? which would be at minimum 2770 damage Really really rough rounding XD), but in terms of raw minimum damage it seems the second build is theoretically the way to go. Anyone shed some light? To be honest i really wanna max out SE first anyway because i have a bishop that 2hits skeles and i found that with maxed SE i could 1hit, which would be epic in general, but i really want to achieve the maximum damage output for my BM. Anyway, any insightful comments/advice would be appreciated =]

My Characters: ringh0exd - 158 Broa Aran in Hope

FrothyFrog + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Your also forgetting about BE that is one of the other skill you have to think about because it boosts your damage alot (max is +30% mastery and +10 wep. att, after the BB it will be +20% mastary and +30 att) im persionally going with 10 SE then figure it out later approuch also known as procrastinate, something that interests me is after the bb which gives your more damage 30 hurricane, 30 SE or 30 BE though now that i think about it, what does +30% mastery even mean O.o Edit: well since it only seems to be u and me in this thread ill figure some out myself, but right now BE will probably be the 3rd skill i work on because its only 10 att though idk how effective the mastery is but after the bb it seems that it might add more damage than 1 lvl of Hurricane though we wont know till we see how much of a % hurricane goes up per lvl, like does it start at 50% and go to 200% or start at 100% to 200%. But after the BB with crits being multiplactive we have our 150% natural crit + our 200% normal crit from our skill and then SE being 130% means its 1.5*2*1.3=390% max crit :D though idk how the min crit works. It seems that every other class knows what skills will work the best for them in 4th job but we have some weird and messy builds untill 150 or so. I also want to sneak 1 phoenix in there just for mobbing/damage when i dont need my hawk

My Characters: FrothyFrog - 122 Galicia Bow Master

spiritrival 10/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Sharp Eyes at max is +240% damage because of Critical Shot as well as Sharp Eyes being put into play. You'll also need to factor in the average amount of Critical hits you'll be dealing. You can do this by multiplying the probability rate by the damage. Max Sharp Eyes has an average Critical damage boost of 240*.55= 132%

My Characters: EviiErk - 120 Khaini Marksman

FrothyFrog + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Compared w/o SE which is 200% damage*.40 chance=80% increase in damage so SE adds (132% damage w/ SE - 80% damage w/o SE) 52% more damage due just to SE, and its a party buff that will get you into bossing parties. So thats 52%/30sp an average of 1.73% increase in damage per SP put in SE and hurricane gives 49%/30sp 1.63% damage per SP put in (starting at 51% ending at 100%) Meaning SE is better to max first as it gives 3% more damage compared to hurricane maxed and it goes for the party so you will be loved :D, though that doesn't include Bow Expert and the bow mastery % which i still don't know how it works EviiErk ty for the help Edit: i asked around and it seems that % BM raises your min damage And for after the bb it seems that concentrate has no cool down O.o so that might be better too as it adds +35 att and -50% damage though 35 att is not 49% of your damage range. So my Pre BB build will be 1 hurricane --> max SE --> max hurricane ---> max BE and thats till lvl 150 which i wont reach b4 the bb and fit one phoenix in there somewhere and After the BB hits and we have the full SP reset ill do 1 hurricane ---> max SE ---> max hurricane / Bow Expert depending on where it starts then max Marksmanship (ignore 20% def and increase HP 10%) then max Concentrate, and thats 130sp points so about lvl 142, then ill do what ever lol

My Characters: FrothyFrog - 122 Galicia Bow Master

lanhowee 10/09/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thanks for your helpful comments guys =D I wasn't planning to play after BB anyway, but yeah maxed SE it is =D

My Characters: ringh0exd - 158 Broa Aran in Hope