FireFighters let house burn over $75.

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thread starter 0sv4ld0 Oct 06 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Saw this earlier and wondered about your opinions. What does basil think about this?

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BanditDuo 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

My teacher were talking about this Monday and we were all in shocked. And this is one of his questions for his other students.

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IceyArcher 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thank god the firefighters in my town aren't greedy morons.

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Regulus133 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

So what advantage do those who do pay the $75 get if firefighters should put out fires for those who do not pay? And what if no one paid at all? Everything costs money; there's no way around it. This means that we cannot have an ideal world in which everyone gets what he wants whenever he wants it. This is an unfortunate case, but it's important to see beyond the cruelty on the surface.

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dragon2923 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Why stop a fire that will stop itself without doing any damage around itself? Why stop a fire if the object itself is already ravaged?

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kappoliffy 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] BanditDuo : My teacher was talking about this Monday and we were all in shock. Also, this is one of his questions for his other students. [/quote] Sorry that was bugging me. And I'm kinda on both sides. They didn't pay the 75$ fee that they had to pay. But really, when do you pay 75$ for fire protection?

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Chaud + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yes, you could classify this as cruel, abhorrent behavior that spits on the concept of being human. But, as much as it pains me to say this, this is the result of negligence. This is not cruel, abhorrent behavior that scoffs at morality. If you do not pay but receive the same service as those who do pay, what reason would others have to pay? In fact, many would dispute their case and demand refunds because those who didn't pay still had the insurance. If you decide not to pay, you must always be willing to pay the price for such inaction. Nonetheless, the family has my utmost sympathy. I truly wish I could do something for them, and it was excruciatingly painful for me to watch that video. I wish I could have done something, anything, about that. But, as Regulus said, we have to look past the cruelty on the surface. This incident will undoubtedly usher in much needed revision to that policy to avoid such horrifying events from taking place again.

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BurninDavyn 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I listened through that guys rant after the news blurp and agree with him. First of all, why the town doesn't have a Volunteer Fire Department in the first place is a mystery, but beside that, I'm sure the dude who's house was on fire would have GLADLY paid $75 to save ANYTHING! I mean, if my house was about to burn to the ground and I had irreplaceable items or pets or something in there, then I'd give anything but my life itself to have them safe. I don't doubt that the home owners in that situation would agree. Either way, it's immoral and disgusting. Politics in general are immoral and disgusting, but crap like this just pushes the envelope farther and farther.

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Montblanc 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

On logical terms what they did was allowed and justified. On moralistic terms, what they did could be considered harsh and cruel

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NewStyle 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] dragon2923 : Why stop a fire that will stop itself without doing any damage around itself? Why stop a fire if the object itself is already ravaged? [/quote] So it doesn't spread?

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0sv4ld0 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Regulus133 : So what advantage do those who do pay the $75 get if firefighters should put out fires for those who do not pay? And what if no one paid at all? Everything costs money; there's no way around it. This means that we cannot have an ideal world in which everyone gets what he wants whenever he wants it. This is an unfortunate case, but it's important to see beyond the cruelty on the surface. [/quote] How about stop the fire and send some kind of bill afterwards? Besides the home owner even said he would pay anything if they could just stop the fire and they still refused.

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Regulus133 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] 0sv4ld0 : How about stop the fire and send some kind of bill afterwards? Besides the home owner even said he would pay anything if they could just stop the fire and they still refused. [/quote] I would love to say that's a good idea, since everyone is happy in the end. But it sets a precedent. Many would think: Why pay a yearly fee when I can just pay whenever I'm in trouble? This means substantially less money for the fire department, which in turn means poorer service. EDIT: Note that I am assuming this money does, at some point, reach the fire department. I am not familiar with the fee, as I live in an apartment.

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runepl8user + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

this is how i see it The man SHOULD have paid the $75 because sometimes meecrob does happen. The fire department SHOULD have put out the fire and then charged the selfish freeloader well over $500 for the service.

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SadieGsCrazy + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

While I feel bad for the man who lost his house, he knew the consequences when he chose to not pay the $75 (even if he didn't believe that they'd still put out his fire despite not paying the fee). I do, however, think it is completely ridiculous for there to be a fee for such a necessary service, it should be a right all citizens have...

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0sv4ld0 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Regulus133 : I would love to say that's a good idea, since everyone is happy in the end. But it sets a precedent. Many would think: Why pay a yearly fee when I can just pay whenever I'm in trouble? This means substantially less money for the fire department, which in turn means poorer service. EDIT: Note that I am assuming this money does, at some point, reach the fire department. I am not familiar with the fee, as I live in an apartment. [/quote] Since you put it that way I see your point, though still I don't see the point to the fee, don't people pay for this stuff in taxes? (Excuse my lack of education in this field, I have yet had the chance to take economics or government)

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