how do heros mesure up?

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thread starter spyke322 Oct 01 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

first question i had is i heard the sader skill, after bb magic crash will work on super def cancel buffs some bosses do as well is this true? it would be nice since we'd be wanted more on more boss runs even if it has cooldown. Also my main question for the thread is how will heros measure up to the other warrior classes? here i was thinking heros are the more up front dmgin chars but i see all over the place that pallys will be doing more damage, sooo... wut r we?

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yokaih 10/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

SealedEye oh lol O_O

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KingHippo 10/03/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Heroes wont be able to measure up to Arans.

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KhainiWest 10/04/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] kruimel0 : Give me one reason (except equips) why my DPS chart is soo bad. Ohwait you don't have one? How annoying. [/quote] I guess it lasting only an hour on SP before being wiped off doesn't say anything. How annoying.

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kruimel0 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] KhainiWest : I guess it lasting only an hour on SP before being wiped off doesn't say anything. How annoying. [/quote] What a luck that was v1.0, and I have changed it countless times (I'm pretty sure I've made over 50 different versions) afterwards.

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AdroxNight 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Since you are in this topic I thought I'd just ask something. Why is the Hero's DPM not "unsure" or "will be higher"? No one currently knows whether BS spam or BS>Finisher Cycling will be optimal after the big bang. You did something similar to the Bandit, so why not the Hero? And I have been trying to find out how effective finishers will be, but its not easy. There is a lack of sufficient material to estimate Panic/Coma's damage, and on top of that charging orbs in 4th job is... complex to say the least.

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BrazenBlitz 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

With the new potential system and the impending BB updates, it really doesn't matter which class you do chose. It's all about funding. With the right combination of potential stats, any class can outdo the other. It's not a matter of which class is better than the other anymore; it's about who invests their time and effort into merching and potentialling.1 This reminds me of the "Which class is better at BF, hero or paladin?". It's all situational. You have a lot of factors and variables that contribute to varying dps values. So, it's all situational and funding based.

Yuenlung 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Post BB Hero: Brave Slash 630% Enrage 160% Adv. Combo 200% (assuming 10% extra per orb) Total % = 2016% Heros can measure up plenty to an Aran

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xjokanitex 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Yes go Heroes! That's the whole reason I made a fighter. I heard that they were going to be pretty slick.

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Jinghang + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Yuenlung : Post BB Hero: Brave Slash 630% Enrage 160% Adv. Combo 200% (assuming 10% extra per orb) Total % = 2016% Heros can measure up plenty to an Aran [/quote] Those figures are correct. But it's only for a 1v1 monster. Not to mention Arans are ridiculously powerful...and are not simply 1v1 characters.

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aRICHfellowz 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] SealedEye : From all of the threads ive seen so far about it, its something like: 1v1: Pallies>Heroes>DrKs 1v3: Heroes>DrKs>Pallies 1v6: DrKs>Pallies>Heroes Altho the differences in percentages sound small between them, and it gets pretty complex when u start tryna figure out differences on specific monster PDRates [/quote] What happened to ACB for paladins? I'm positive paladins have the best 1v6.

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SilverFoxR 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

First and foremost, ignore the DPM charts - most of them are highly innacurate. Second, ALL warriors gain Magic Crash. Originally, each warrior type could cancel defence, attack or magic buffs, but now, all skills are combined into one all-purpose de-buff that every warrior gains. Finally, to combine the three classes, Heroes are the most offensive of the three classes, devoting most of their skills to attacks and boosts to their attack power. Paladins are the most defensive of the three classes, gaining the most defensive skills. Dark Knights are somewhere in between, gaining some clever defensive skills as well as some solid attack and attack-buffing skills.

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spyke322 10/05/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

in what situation would 1v6 apply? O.o

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alex168 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

hmm... funded hero>drk and pally funded drk >hero and pally funded pally> hero and drk :D

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SweetTeaMob + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] Blackmanrific : Sorry to hurt your ego, heroes are nowhere near top anymore, more like middle down with us MMs and BMs dont worry your gonna have fun dont here :D [/quote] I love how willing you are to take the Heroes into your loving ranks xD<3 You're like "Come on down buddy<33 :D" On topic I like how SilverFoxR describes it. That is basically it. As GameGameLOL or w/e said the only variable in the game other than side skills like DEF and the Sader skill that ups damage while in dark/stun blah blah is funding lol. So that being said SilverFoxR's post is the most true imo :]

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SealedEye 10/06/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

I find it interesting how everyone seems to never think about 1v6 attacking... I mean, you TRAIN dont you? Ppl do MORE than just boss in 4th job, theres skeles, ToT, gallos, dukus (when we can actually enter ulu city), and more.

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