Question about big bang.

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thread starter maplest0ry65 Sep 28 2010 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Once big bang comes out with the new exp change, will high lvl equips and skill books prices skyrocket since lots of ppl will reach 3rd/4th job fast? Well I hope there is an exp change.

FrothyFrog 09/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

monsters exp is reduced too, its all balanced out a bit, there will be more 4th jobbers yes but it also means that more of them are killing the high lvl monsters that drop those books

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maplest0ry65 09/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

Thx xD

shadower1994 09/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

THe monster exp is not totally reduced in all ways. Its the HP that has increased. Therefore the exp:hp ratio is different. The exp:hp ratio will be lower but the exp curve fixes it. I dont think leveling will be THAT faster cause the 2x exp rep buff is removed for a 1,2x exp rep buff... Altho the books will drop since we will be able to kill monsters like HT and Czak much easier.

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InfamousSoul 09/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] shadower1994 : THe monster exp is not totally reduced in all ways. Its the HP that has increased. Therefore the exp:hp ratio is different. The exp:hp ratio will be lower but the exp curve fixes it. I dont think leveling will be THAT faster cause the 2x exp rep buff is removed for a 1,2x exp rep buff. Altho the books will drop since we will be able to kill monsters like HT and Czak much easier. [/quote] Actually, killing HT and Czak or even Zak will be MUCH harder, due to PDR and PDD. Your damage will be cut in half against these bosses, unless you are a NL, Dark Knight, Hero, or Paladin (and maybe some others too, I think). So yea, killing them will take much longer :3 especially since there will be a time limit for these bosses after BB (1 hr time limit to kill Zak, for instance).

necrondemon 09/28/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

its already been stated elsewhere that All skill books are REMOVED and that you get skills automatically. so skill book prices will plummet to nul. Equips however, clean, non potential equip prices will plummet Scrolled, Potentialled gears will drop a little. Why? Items will be easier to get, more people will be getting the items, and more people will be selling them. Its supply and demand, there will be a larger supply, and a larger demand.

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AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] InfamousSoul : Actually, killing HT and Czak or even Zak will be MUCH harder, due to PDR and PDD. Your damage will be cut in half against these bosses, unless you are a NL, Dark Knight, Hero, or Paladin (and maybe some others too, I think). So yea, killing them will take much longer :3 especially since there will be a time limit for these bosses after BB (1 hr time limit to kill Zak, for instance). [/quote] You forgot a few other factors. I'll use a hero as an example. -Our main attack is now 1260% damage, when it was originally 988%. -Enrage enhances the above damage on one target: 2016% (over double from the old Brandish, that cancels out the 50% damage reduction). -Our damage formula is enhanced. It was (4Str + dex) * Watt/100. Now it is (4.8Str + 1.2Dex) * Watt/100 -Mastery is higher and more effective. Originally out min damage was about 54% of our max. Now it is 70%. -Combat Mastery changes that 50% reduction into a 30% reduction on average -and many more reasons, especially in parties. And I doubt the time limit would hurt anyone except soloers. Edit: dont forget that Potential Equipment already makes everything laughably easy, if you are willing to buy nx.

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willeh + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] necrondemon : its already been stated elsewhere that All skill books are REMOVED and that you get skills automatically. so skill book prices will plummet to nul. Equips however, clean, non potential equip prices will plummet Scrolled, Potentialled gears will drop a little. Why? Items will be easier to get, more people will be getting the items, and more people will be selling them. Its supply and demand, there will be a larger supply, and a larger demand. [/quote] You get all your skills at 120, yes. But u still need skill books to raise the skill lvs to 20 and 30 Edit: and @ above, how did u come out with that new dng formula? It's Weapon multiplier*(4*main stat+secondary stat)*W.attack(or M.ATK)/100 for all classes

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Efemera + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] willeh : You get all your skills at 120, yes. But u still need skill books to raise the skill lvs to 20 and 30 Edit: and @ above, how did u come out with that new dng formula? It's Weapon multiplier*(4*main stat+secondary stat)*W.attack(or M.ATK)/100 for all classes [/quote] Plug in 1.2 for multiplier. No, high level equips won't skyrocket in price because you will still be poor.

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maplest0ry65 09/29/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

@necrondemon They remove the quest not books, so I think all skill start out with max lvl 10.

AdroxNight + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

[quote] willeh : You get all your skills at 120, yes. But u still need skill books to raise the skill lvs to 20 and 30 Edit: and @ above, how did u come out with that new dng formula? It's Weapon multiplier*(4*main stat+secondary stat)*W.attack(or M.ATK)/100 for all classes [/quote] Basic Algebra. You know, plugging in unknown values and simplifying equations?

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shadower1994 09/30/10 + PM | QUOTE | PERMALINK | REPORT

InfamousSoul Well I didn't thought about that but lets have a look at shadowers bstep now it does 500% hitting twice so 1000% damage After BB it does 600% twice and 50%twice from SP wich is a total of (600%*2)+(300%*2)= 1800% damage. If it gets cut in half its like 900% damage. So thats just a 100% damage decrease but dont forget that our atk ranges get upgraded too. So i dont think ur damage at bosses changes that much after BB. So it's still a piece of cake to kill zak.

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